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Post by bobf on Mar 8, 2015 16:22:12 GMT -6
Well, it is a done deal. $104.50 and will ship this week. I sent him my list of numbers and how fast RPM etc. Next he sent me a item to order VRRPM3H. He said he has had good responses from scooter owners that used that part. It may even be the same as yours. He said it easily gets past the low output of the factory installed items.
By his photo's I can't really tell just how large or small it may be. I hope by week end I will know.
Thanks for the info and inputs from you ellpee.
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Post by bobf on Mar 7, 2015 10:51:27 GMT -6
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Post by bobf on Mar 7, 2015 10:14:38 GMT -6
ellpee, I will post some of my data and my results of running the engine and watching the volts at the same time. I could not figure out how to ride and still watch the volts so I just ran it on the stand so I could also have the voltmeter connected and see how the charge was doing.
My first reading after off the long charge and the charger was satisfied and shut itself off was 13.19 volts.
1 day it was12.91, then next day 12.86, next day 12.82, next 12.81, next 12.76, next 12.75, next 12.72, next 12.73, today 12.65.
While running I could vary the speed as shown on the tach. Running idle I could see
First run-----
Running at about 2,000 it showed
Somewhere above 2,000 the voltage could reach up into the 13.2 range and then drop off to 12.4
After finished and shut down the battery read 12.68 volts.
Second run ----
Start idle 13.17 volts
Idle with fan on 12.5 @ 1,000 rpm
Then 12.5 @ 4,000 RPM
Off 12.6 volts
On the first run at higher speeds, not checked but running real fast, I could see the voltage rise up into the 13+ range and then drop down into the 12 range.
I did not notice this in the second run but my number in the 4,000 range shows that might be true again.
I found it pretty hard to turn the throttle, read the gauges, watch the voltmeter, keep the voltmeter wire connected to the wire. I really could have used a knowledgeable helper at those times. Those 13+ numbers would show up but shortly they were gone and back to the 12's again.
I am definitely going to find a small voltmeter to install on my dash somewhere. I am also going to look into the battery needs while running and needing charged. I don't know these technical needs for the battery. Sort of sounds like what I need is a controllable regulator so I can boost the riding time charge to the amount the battery expects. Not sure that statement make sense. And that is what I have done over the last week or so and not much more going to happen for a while now, other than find a small voltmeter to install. I saw all kinds on the web but I prefer to look in the scooter and auto stores. So I can see the actual size and how they want to be installed.
Thanks for your help ellpee
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Post by bobf on Mar 6, 2015 15:34:21 GMT -6
Thanks ellpee for your note and information. I put him on my find list and even opened his site for a look. Sounds like a decent person. So when I get ready I will send him my scoot description and my concerns. Then we should be able to decide what to do. In the mean time I am not on my charger yet as I would like to have a short ride with charge known prior and again when I get back. Prior to sending him a note.
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Post by bobf on Mar 5, 2015 19:44:16 GMT -6
Thanks ellpee. Who is this expensive R/R in Oregon you speak of. Is it a higher level of charging item? If you have their business name , address, or link, I will take a look at what they offer.
I have thought about disconnecting the radio as I never use it. And the clock really does not get much attention from me either so it could be disconnected and no loss. The alarm is something I had not thought of. The only time I have heard it chirp was when I did not have the proper settings and was punching my little box this way and that but had trouble shutting off the alarm. Maybe disconnect those from the battery would be a help.
Yes, I am considering selling if I don't ride it much more. I only run around in town here, never tried a trip. My question in that post was about how much would the market offer these days. Never got an answer so I guess I will go to a scooter store in town or up in Phoenix to check their prices and start from there.
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Post by bobf on Mar 5, 2015 9:45:29 GMT -6
I have always used battery tenders. Had the Jr on all the time and that was when my original battery left me down across town and would not restart the engine. A guy in a pickup near me said he could jump me, and he did. Got me home. Then later on my Jr got dropped and decided to not work any more so I went to replace it and no Jrs available. Now I use the next size up called "Battery Tender " but no Junior associated with it. I used this similar to my Jr usage but at times allow the scooter to sit without being connected. It acts as a charger when starting but then changes to a trickle charger as the voltage picks up in the battery.
If this is what happens to these newer batteries, not hold a charge and completely fail in a year or two, they are really not worth the charges taken from my wallet.
Was wondering if somehow my generation system is not working good or even not working at all. So I will continue tracking my battery without the charger being put back on and also by checking, then running for a while, then checking again. I would expect it to start with one level and return with a higher level if the charging system is working. If not then maybe need to do something to the charging system like check the wiring for good connections, replace parts, whatever.
Anyone experienced with this type of problem. Sudden death of batteries and short life of batteries. Maybe add a volt gauge to the dash so I can see what is going on?
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Post by bobf on Mar 4, 2015 14:59:39 GMT -6
I have a 2008 Roketa 250CC MC-54-250B that I actually bought brand new in Jan 2011 and received in Feb 2011
Recently I tried to start it up and nothing happened. Since then it has been charged and for the past week I have periodically checked the voltage. It started, from after the charge at 13.19 volts at 7 am and by 7 pm it was down to 12.98 volts. Next day it was at 12.91 volts. Then on day 3 it was 12.86 volts. By day 4 I found 12.84 volts. Day 5 showed 12.81 volts and day 6 we see 12.76 volts. Now today I see 12.75.
Nothing has been done to the scoot but read the battery from the battery posts.
After a couple more days I will finally restart and watch to see if the charging system will kick in and try to bring the reserve volts in the battery back up a bit. If that does not happen would that mean the alternator is not working?
Also wondering if disconnecting the clock could help keep this daily drain from happening? Are there any other slow bleeding items to check for?
I have been caught before with a dead battery and no previous warning. I have put two batteries in the scoot since the original one died and it is only 4 years or so in my hands. That is not good in my mind.
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Post by bobf on Feb 22, 2015 19:28:11 GMT -6
That may be a good thought. Would that be best at a dealer to make such a deal.
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Post by bobf on Feb 22, 2015 17:06:54 GMT -6
I have a 2008 Roketa 250CC MC-54-250B that I actually bought brand new in Jan 2011 and received in Feb 2011
I disassembled it and then after changing water, oils, gas, making sure all screws, bolts, etc were tight, I put it back together. Right now I am thinking of selling it as I am now near 82 and not really driving it very much as today it only shows 120 miles. I am starting to have some balance problems even while walking. But intend to ride when it is not too windy as in the winter, or way too hot in the summer.
Just wondering about how much would this scoot get on the market and how best to get a buyer.
I now live in Casa Grande Arizona, 50,000 people plus winter folks, which is partly why I don't ride as much. I was in Cortez Colorado, small town of about 9,000 and rest was mostly country roads. Cold in the winter itself but rest of year it was grand for riding around. But shortly after getting the scoot reassembled and starting to ride a bit, I got medical orders to move to low altitude or get air tanks to live with. Here in Casa Grande I find the traffic to be busy in town, at least to me, but in a month or so the winter folks will begin to leave and it gets a bit easier to use the streets again.
So I am just wondering if there is a way to make another person happy or do I just need to drive it as long as I can and then set it on the curb for a pickup by someone.
Thanks for any feed backs.
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Post by bobf on Dec 4, 2014 19:40:21 GMT -6
Check the coolant reservoir under the mid cover. If it is still near full, you don't need to add any more coolant. Is the radiator air intake still clear? It should be. Maybe a bit of stress test if your observations find plenty of coolant and free air passage to the radiator seems OK. Just go out and run at close to road speed for an hour. My scoot seems to be fine but I never really watched the water temp except after I did the complete coolant change after it had been run a while. I also did the oil change. All this was done after I had ridden it for a while. I think about 100 miles. I followed the advice of several scooter folks on this website. I removed all the covers. Double checked all electrical connections. Checked all the water tubing and hoses. Tightened lots of screws. Then had to remember which parts came of last so I could rebuild the scooter. I used rubber glue on the screws to try to stop loosening and falling out.
Just some thoughts. I tried my own tear down to gain knowledge and save a few dollars. Not confident in your abilities then you have done good to have a shop you trust to help you out.
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by: bobf - Nov 23, 2014 12:46:03 GMT -6
Post by bobf on Nov 23, 2014 12:46:03 GMT -6
Which engine does it have. The horizontal or vertical one if in the 250cc class. That would be a start to the solution.
Most on this forum have their very own favorite brands of real and synthetic oils. Myself, for my 250cc vertical engine, I use standard oil of SAE 10-40 grade. I only cruise around in town. Never on the highways trying to get up over the 60mph or on long haul trips. So far am satisfied with this regular oil. Never tried any synthetics either.
How much? On my engine it is to where the dip stick says. Pretty close to the opening on the side where the dip stick goes in.
I hope you like your ride.
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Post by bobf on Nov 18, 2014 10:44:58 GMT -6
Hello to you Scootaway and welcome.
We are having times when jobs are sporadic. Some locations are doing well and others still failing after at least 8 years since the economy tanked. Where I live in southern Arizona it seems jobs are OK, but not enough to bring lots more to us looking for work. Where my son and daughter live in northern Colorado there seems to be plenty of work but also some local inflation too. Prior to working in Colorado my daughter had a government type job. Good wages and all but after a few years she decided to become a contractor type. No real long time security but pretty good wages. Now she is working from her home through an agency. Sometimes she needs to travel, but still doing OK money wise.
So don't give up too soon. Maybe, depending on what you really can do and want to do, you may find something in a contract type job while still looking for a more permanent type job. This is a big country and by area some are doing well and other areas are not doing so well, and a lot depends on what you want to do or can do.
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Post by bobf on Nov 6, 2014 13:05:09 GMT -6
I find this time of the year to be the beginning of good times for me and my scoot. Normally, when temps are in the 90's and up, the scoot stays in the garage. Now we have been able to start riding again. Probably will ride when I desire right up to late spring when the temps start staying in the 90's and above.
Southern Arizona is not a good place to be in the summer. My opinion. But now I live here for the lower altitude for my lungs.
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Post by bobf on Aug 11, 2014 11:22:53 GMT -6
Thanks for the usage of my post JR. I guess, since I have been here so long that, I never even have looked into the featured sections of this site. You had just started when I joined. Time for me to start browsing.
Can do as you suggest.
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Post by bobf on Aug 10, 2014 15:25:52 GMT -6
Be patient and you may hear from some of the members on this forum. Some do seem to be aware of what is going on.
Have you tried your whole sale connection or local dealer?
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