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Post by JR on Jun 18, 2013 8:14:15 GMT -6
Barnie all good ideas and we need to look at all alternatives. I knew Richard had some of the typical issues that others have sometimes but I didn't realize he had this on and off issue so long, thought he had solved it long ago.
Now we're on a mission and this needs to be fixed. Just like I mentioned, it sometimes is a process of elimination and Richard has already replaced several things so we need to look at all little things that might be causing this and keep him form buying unnecessary parts.
I do believe he has weak fuel flow so a new fuel pump is cheap and will assure us this is not the problem. JR
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 18, 2013 8:33:28 GMT -6
Alleyoop, JR, & Barnie, check out my carb on the air box side, looked inside. (IT IS IN THERE!) ;D , Thank God, when I bought scoot had 2,000 miles on her and the on going issue by times seem to fix itself, I've had good periods where she ran good, and then the problem would show up again. I know with your help we can figure this out.
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Post by Barnie on Jun 18, 2013 12:56:16 GMT -6
Richard, JR, Alley, I am in total agreement with JR on the pump route. Let us know how u do on that Richard. Barnie
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 21, 2013 16:58:59 GMT -6
JR, Alleyoop, Barnie & guys, Got my new pump today, replaced the old pump and a few cranks and she fired right up ;D Didn't get to test drive yet, but so far everything looks good. Will let you know how it goes Attachments:
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Post by Barnie on Jun 21, 2013 18:56:34 GMT -6
Richard, lets cross our fingers. When u test ride it, if it were to shut off at wot up ur hill, with out trying to recrank or restart it open the screw on the carb bowl drain hose and see if any gas comes out. If none that would mean still a loss of fuel delivery. You have to open the screw tho without cranking engine. I'm going to bet it runs ok. Barnie
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 22, 2013 9:37:52 GMT -6
Well guy's took scoot for a ride, for the most part 60-65 easily going up the big hill leaving town the scoot choke twice but did not stall, every where else was great, just wondering if I replace my diaphragm in carb, would that make a difference Right now carb a/f is set a 3 turns out.
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Post by Barnie on Jun 22, 2013 11:30:31 GMT -6
Richard, I wuld turn the a/f screw in to 2 to 2 1/2 and try that. 3 in close to max open with out falling out. Glad to hear she is up and running. I would try riding normal for a bit and see how she does. IF THE DIAPHRAM was bad it would not run good if at all. Barnie
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Post by Barnie on Jun 22, 2013 11:55:44 GMT -6
Richard, the needle on the diaphram is what runs ur main jet which is where ur upper portion of the throttle and speed comes from. If u got to 60-65 easy I would say your diaphram and needle and main are working ok. You may be losing just a little vac due to normal wear etc and being just enough to make it sputter at wot up a hill a time or to but not stop. Try the hill at less that wide open say 50-55mph and see what happens. Your getting there!! Barnie
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 22, 2013 17:58:17 GMT -6
Thanks Barnie, I'll turn the a/f back to 2 1/2 and see what that does
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 23, 2013 16:24:55 GMT -6
Well Barnie, last night I turned the a/f 1/4 turn leaner, today test drive and its running good, quick acceleration into the higher speeds the real test will be tomorrow going to work (climbing those hills) ;D
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Post by Barnie on Jun 23, 2013 18:59:51 GMT -6
Richard, hey sounding better and better. Question, how steep and long are the hills or hill that gives you trouble. When running at wot and the engine under load, its not putting out much vacumn. If you have a long haul at wot the vac to the pump will be minimal until you go back to normal throttle and speed and it would be possible for the pump to briefly not put out any fuel but then engine will still run on what is in the carb bowl until that's gone. If your hill is longer than whats in the carb bowl you would have the problems you have been having. Then it takes a little cranking for the vacumn/pump to fill the carb before it will start again. If it runs fine other than the hills, you may have to go to elec pump like I has to. Experiment a little Monday to see what it takes on the hill to keep it running. You can also change ur a/f setting a little more to see if that will help. Barnie
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 24, 2013 17:12:31 GMT -6
Hey guys, took scoot to work, she ran great and I conquered the hill ;D Attachments:
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Post by Barnie on Jun 24, 2013 18:56:33 GMT -6
Richard, that's great. I suspected your pump was bad from start and the dirt in carb didn't help either. Next time u fill the gas tank, put about 3 oz seafoam in the tank (1 oz per gal) and that will further clean ur fuel system and will clean it relatively fast. Where is Vintondale Pa, what part of state. I live in North Central Ohio. Good to hear your back on road. Barnie p
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Post by bobf on Jun 24, 2013 20:00:14 GMT -6
North central Ohio? I grew up in Tiffin. Did a two year in the army from 1953 and over time I was in Mississippi, California, Florida, Colorado, and now Arizona. Still have relatives living in Ohio. I think they are likely in Lakeside on Lake Erie this week. They have an annual swat the love bugs group meeting each year. .
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Jun 24, 2013 20:04:05 GMT -6
Barnie, I'm about 50 miles from Pittsburgh
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