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Post by HotStuff2 on Nov 12, 2012 11:52:58 GMT -6
I've enjoyed the 150cc Taotao, but I've been wanting to upgrade to a "big boy" motorcycle for a few months now. A couple of weeks back, I sat on a 2011 Suzuki Boulevard C50 in a dealer showroom, and I was hooked - I *like* that bike. But ~$9,000? Out of my price range. So, I was looking online at motorcycles for sale, and low and behold, last week a 2006 Suzuki Boulevard C50 popped up on Cycletrader.com. 9,973 miles, with windshield, saddle bags, engine guards, and rear seat backrest (basically, a stock C50 upgraded to the Touring model.) It cost me all my savings, but I bought her yesterday (11/11/12), for the (what I hope is a good deal - it was to me!) low price of $3,000 cash. (If you look the price up on the NADA website, the stock model would run ~$4,596, or the Touring edition would be ~$6,366.) I had to drive to the other side of the state to pick her up, but I got to ride her back to Tampa, and she's everything I expected. Talk about a smooth ride! Nothing like the scooter. I've got a low of learning to do; I learned a lot modding my scooter quite a bit (custom air intake, custom exhaust, carb mods, etc.), and I'm a fairly handy shade-tree mechanic, so I found an online copy of the C50 service manual, so I think I'm off to a good start. There's a lot to learn, but there's also a lot of really cool mods and add-ons for it. ;D I have some photos on Photobucket; they're what the seller sent me: s1326.beta.photobucket.com/user/TheRealMoleman/library/MotorcycleI'm going to sell the Taotao scooter; I figure with all the mods I've done to it, I should be able to get $600 to $700 (I've already had an offer of $500 for it.) I have to transfer the tag tomorrow, and I still have to get my motorcycle endorsement (which means paying $150 - $200 for the darn "motorcycle safety" course that FL requires. ) It's been fun, guys, and thanks for all the help. Ride safe out there! .tampabaymiatas.net/forum/images/smilies/hello.gif]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">.tampabaymiatas.net/forum/images/smilies/hello.gif] [/img]
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Post by HotStuff2 on Nov 2, 2012 7:40:56 GMT -6
As long as you have the speedo out where you can see it take the cable off then while on the centerstand and some weight on the seat so the front wheel is off the ground spin it forwards and see that the core of the speedo cable is spinning. If it isn't the part that picks up rotation on the front axle is bad. I tried this, and the cable does not appear to move at all. Maybe I wasn't spinning the wheel fast enough? Might put everything together (sans the cluster) and take the bike for a spin around the parking lot, that should generate enough speed to check for sure. Or is that a bad idea? Check the bottom of the Cable: Alleyoop Would that I could, but I cannot.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Nov 2, 2012 7:13:15 GMT -6
Alright, got waylayed a few days due to family issues, so just got around to reading replies and working on the bike.
I took the cable out of the sheath; it's not broken.
I took the entire gauge cluster apart, and pulled out the speedometer/odometer piece. The cable fits in snugly, so it doesn't appear to be stripped at the connection point.
The speedometer/odometer guts are turning freely, and when I turn it manually, the odometer appears to move (ever so slight, so I'm manually turning it by hand), thus I think that piece is working as well.
Which only leaves the plug on the front wheel. :\
I seem to recall someone linking to an eBay auction about a replacement plug that converted the speedometer to use the KM/h range as the MP/h instead. Anyone know specifically what something like that would be called? Where to find it?
Going to pull off the front wheel and have a look. I don't think the wheel is damaged or anything, most likely the hub on the front wheel just died. Damn Chinese parts... :X
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Post by HotStuff2 on Oct 21, 2012 11:19:41 GMT -6
Sweet zombie Jesus, if it's not one thing, it's another. The title says it all; the speedometer and the odometer no longer work. Other gauges (voltage, gas, high-beam indicator, turn signals) work properly. I pulled the front off the gauge cluster, and checked the cable going into the speedometer; it's secure, and screwed in tightly. There doesn't appear to be any breaks in the cable/wire that goes to the wheel. Suggestions?
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 19, 2012 7:57:47 GMT -6
STATUS: RUNNINGBased on the information overload you gurus presented, I began tearing into the bike in earnest this morning. It appears the fix was much, much simpler than we expected. I should preface this with saying that since I put the Dragon Custom Big Shot Exhaust and Air Intake on, one of the problems I've been experiencing is an undue amount of vibration. So much so, that bolts rattle/vibrate themselves loose. Relying on my computer technician experience, I decided to follow straight-forward trouble-shooting skills, and begin with the easiest fix first. I checked the ground cable coming from the valve cover to the battery. A day or so ago, I noticed that the connector @ the battery was loose; so much so, that I tore it apart from the wire by accident. This morning I took the wire off the valve cover, re-attached the connector solidly, and then soldered the wire to the ring connector. I then re-attached the wire to the valve connector. After checking that the wires to the solenoid were good, I thought, "What the hell", and re-connected the battery cables. Sure enough, the clock did NOT dim when I pressed the start button. I put the key in the "ON" position, and after cranking her for a bit - surprise, she turned over! - it finally started. So it appears that the entire problem was a loose ground wire to the battery. The new ignition and electric start button shipped from Eagle ATV Parts (Taotao); since I don't need the ignition switch, I'm going to try and refuse the shipment (to avoid paying s/h fees back to them), and just order the electric start button by itself. I'm pissed at myself for taking so long to find such a simple problem. edit: Also, probably the reason I couldn't start it by kick-starting the motor was due to my bad right hip and back, and probably the ground wire as well. It's a PITA for me to try and kick down hard and fast enough to turn the motor over, and that's why the electric start is what I need.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 19, 2012 6:38:46 GMT -6
Alright, lots to do. You guys are information overload (just the way I like it!) Going to finish up my coffee, wake up my son, and start tearing into this bike. I want - nay, I *need*! - it to be running.
I'll get to these points and report back.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 18, 2012 13:18:33 GMT -6
Well, I'm confused then. The ground is right by the battery, and is solid. As is all the connections to the solenoid. I've been trickle charging my battery, I'm going to put it back in. But this just started happening, and I was able to get it to start most of the time (except having to kickstart it a few times), and now it won't start at all. So replacing the solenoid wouldn't help?
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 6, 2012 7:25:31 GMT -6
I went ahead and ordered the new ignition switch and right-hand start / kill switch assembly, since I got frustrated and stopped working on it. Even tore my sneaker trying to kick start it. But I'm going to pull it back up here today and try to use my volt meter on it as you instructed. I have to get this thing running, it's my only transportation. It's not the fuse. That would also make the clock turn off, and of course I checked it anyway.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 4, 2012 15:55:20 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm sort of leaning toward it maybe being the ignition switch. Which would explain why snacking the plastic "worked" sometimes. Now, for some reason, the clock is staying on when I turn the ignition switch to "On", but it dims. Guess I'll check prices on a replacement ignition switch.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 4, 2012 9:46:50 GMT -6
There are no fuses in the front. I've checked all the wires there, everything *looks* normal. I was thinking that it might be a loose connection, based on the fact that previously I was able to smack the plastic right below the ignition (which doesn't have anything in front of it, oddly enough), but I can't find any loose connections. Also, previously this would happen when I was sitting on the seat, but if I stood, the issue didn't happen. So I was thinking it might be a pinched connection, but that would mean it was under the seat...except for the fact that I could smack the plastic right below the ignition and it would start working. Very puzzling. edit: also, the whole "ignition on = no electrical" was happening long before the switch broke off.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Sept 4, 2012 9:29:55 GMT -6
Been off the boards for a while due to my moving into my new condo and some other minor things, but finally had to come back. Unfortunately, it's with an issue. Here's what happened: A week or so ago, I went to cut the motor off with the kill switch, and POP! The button literally broke off. I had to kick start it, but I got it running. After wiggling the now-broken switch around, the electric start finally started working - for a while. But then it died again, and no amount of fiddling would get it to crank up with the button. And having a bad lower back and hip, kick starting the bike is a huge PITA. So yesterday I finally got around to taking the entire button assembly apart; even after trying to manually jumper it into the proper position, the electric start button won't work. So I'm thinking it's probably the starter motor or perhaps the starter solenoid that may have gone bad, no? (NOTE: The issue below was not happening at the time, but now it is.) The other thing that was happening was that sometimes, when I would put the key to the "on" position, the clock would go off, and the electric start wouldn't work - it was as if the entire battery was disconnected. But strangely enough, a firm smack on the plastic right below the ignition switch would do it. Not sure those two are related, though. So, am I correct in assuming that I probably need to replace the starter motor? Or is there something else I should be checking/testing? I've taken the headlight assembly apart, all the wires look right. Going to tear into the engine here shortly and see if there's anything else I might be missing. This morning, I've taken the seat off, and traced the wires; everything looks normal. BUT, I'm back to trying to figure out what gremlin is causing the entire electrical system to die only when the key is in the "Start" position, as that's what it's doing right now. The clock goes off, thus I know there is no electrical; when I put the key in the "Aux" or the "Off" position, the clock turns on. Very strange. All the wiring looks fine; based on my being able to smack the plastic right below the ignition switch previously, I suspect that it's something in the front rather than under the seat. As to what that "something" is, however, I just can't figure it out. Any ideas on what I should be looking for?
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Post by HotStuff2 on Jun 2, 2012 20:29:28 GMT -6
Great post HotStuff! I also installed Dragon Custom Big Shot on my MC54-250B The oil catch supposed to relief the pressure in the crankcase, not sure if that is necessary. I may disconnect it and see if the performance changes. I do love the deep sound. I also replaced the original rusted studs(exhaust header) with a stainless steel ones and used stainless lock-washers to keep it from loosening. Happy trails Yeah I only had one nut on the studs, I need to do what you did, and maybe add some Loctite to it as well. I need to get a new exhaust gasket as well.
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Post by HotStuff2 on Jun 2, 2012 6:16:52 GMT -6
I didn't like the Double Shot. And as it turns out, the Little Shot oil catch can is useless for me.
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Post by HotStuff2 on May 31, 2012 8:18:14 GMT -6
After lots of reading and studying, I'm in agreement that yes, a properly designed PAIR system won't interfere with the motor - but in the case of many (if not most) of these Chinese scoots, a PAIR system was simply slapped on the motor to help them meet the CA emissions standards, and is not a "properly designed and/or implemented system". Mine was taken off as soon as I got the bike (well, half of it was, but the scooter shop; I took the rest of myself after reading and studying), and yes, my bike has run much better without it. I was getting ~105mpg with the stock airbox and muffler (obviously, since installing the aftermarket parts, I haven't had enough gas fill-ups to properly calculate what my MPG is now.)
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Post by HotStuff2 on May 30, 2012 17:16:11 GMT -6
Remove the chrome tube from the valve cover. Either buy the block-off plates (they cost like $10.95 each! ) or make your own, which is what I did, and then just remove anything connected to it. It's really simple once you look at it.
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