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Post by godfeast on Sept 13, 2012 11:50:39 GMT -6
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Post by godfeast on Sept 12, 2012 16:07:44 GMT -6
Is it possible that a bad rectifier could be doing this?
I switched back to my old one (it did run with the other harness, but no lights) because I didnt have a proper plug for the 5 pronged on that came with my 8 pole stator.
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Post by godfeast on Sept 12, 2012 12:57:56 GMT -6
OK ,
I just got time today to finally finish checking the harness and installing it only to find that now the bike wont even try to start and the headlights and turn signals are on steady as soon as the battery is connected.
I have no idea whats plugged in wrong or crossed.
How can I find out whats going down?
Further plug and pray testing shows me that removing both the entire rear portion of the harness from the back lights and the front portion of the harness from everything does not effect the situation ( removing front plugs and back turn signals still stay lit steady as soon as battery positive is connected, and if rear plugs are removed the headlights still stay on steady (and this is a system where the headlights shouldnt be on if engine isnt running).
Ive checked the plug connections and they all seem to match up with correct wiring, but obviously i have to be missing something.
Is it possible that a longbo harness is wired that differently from a sunl adventure, besides adding the alarm plug?
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Post by godfeast on Sept 4, 2012 15:00:43 GMT -6
After having used the multitester on it, the black+white wire from the alarm plug that is connected to the ignition seems to go to only two other places, one of which is the kill line on the cdi and the other is up in the instrument panel (unsure of what it leads to from there yet).
I tested the old harness as well, and that seems to be the only two spots on it that the black+white wire leads to, and after having tested both harnesses, it seems that with the bullet connector in place from alarm plug to ignition, that they are both wired identically and therefore logically should work.
Putting it in bike tomorrow morning.
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Post by godfeast on Sept 4, 2012 14:27:57 GMT -6
Those ignitions can fail too. Im not sure how to properly check one, but it might not be a bad idea to swap it out.
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Post by godfeast on Sept 4, 2012 11:10:09 GMT -6
I have to do my projects on something other than a holiday weekend, lol.
I still have the harness out, so rather than cut it open and lay it beside my other harness, is there perhaps a certain wire at the cdi or something that I can simply check at the alarm plug with a multimeter to find the right wires to earth or jump if its not already setup correctly?
I have no idea if the owner of the old trashed scooter had an alarm installed or not since I bought the frame with the front of the bike mostly pulled already.
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Post by godfeast on Sept 3, 2012 12:24:06 GMT -6
Yeah, I saw the alteration mount, but at 400 bucks, it kinda kills the whole deal thing.
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Post by godfeast on Sept 3, 2012 12:01:29 GMT -6
hmm... I looked at the harness closely and Im confused now. The plug thhat would go to the non-existent alarm has a brown+white wire that had a bullet connector and goes to nothing else - I cut off the end before I realized this seemed wrong. The other bullet connector goes from the wiring at the alarm plug (not actually into the plug) to the black+white wire coming from the ignition. Connecting the brown+white wire will actually do nothing because it plugs into nothing. Is this already setup to work without an alarm then by virtue of the black+white alarm wire already going to the ignition plug? Ill post pics here of what Im talking about.   |
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Post by godfeast on Sept 2, 2012 22:16:47 GMT -6
I do have those lines coming from the alarm connector, however, the black+white has a bullet connector going to the ignition.
Should I leave that connected and then short the wire at the alarm plug with a jumper?
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Post by godfeast on Sept 2, 2012 21:01:23 GMT -6
I finally got down to my storage unit today and located a totally clean harness I had off a wrecked scooter with low miles I bought a while back.
The only thing different from the one I have in the scooter now (besides wire fraying, lol) is that it was setup to accept a scooter alarm of some sort.
I now have to bypass this somehow or cut it out of the harness to get this work - anyone have an idea of what I need to do?
I'd like to save time unwrapped both and then trying to make them identical if I can just short or open a couple wires and be done with it.
I read in another forum that it just requires jumpering the black+white and brown+white wires at the alarm harness.
Is that so? And if so, do I still leave the bullet connection on the black+white wire connecting to the ignition?
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Post by godfeast on Sept 2, 2012 20:58:47 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply, but having seen no response to a couple questions I tossed out in the interwebs this afternoon, I passed on the scooter.
It looked pretty nice too, but it was too much of a chance with no knowledge beforehand of how it might turn out.
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Post by godfeast on Sept 2, 2012 18:00:29 GMT -6
nobody knows?
or is it just a slow weekend?
lol
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Post by godfeast on Sept 2, 2012 16:12:06 GMT -6
I just got a chance to pick up a nice 50cc frame and body but I really need to use my 150cc engine.
How difficult is it to swap mounting hardware around to make a 50cc body accept a 150cc engine?
Is it pricey?
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Post by godfeast on Sept 1, 2012 11:18:50 GMT -6
Thanks guys. I took electronics in high school, so I follow a bit, but it seems I def need to learn more.
I appreciate both the help and the clarification.
I have to work around work, so cant get to it asap, but I've decided to pull the harness off and lay it out to look for problems; going to strip it, then solder connections that look bad and retape before troubleshooting further.
This has saved me time in the past, and I hope it will again.
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Post by godfeast on Aug 30, 2012 17:33:38 GMT -6
so would that indicate a bad switch or bad wiring to the switch do you think?
The ignition is less than a few months old as well...
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