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Post by bobf on Jul 4, 2012 14:50:30 GMT -6
I have a YY250t, 2008 MC 54 250B, with the Honda clone. I recently had my covers off to fix the seat latch. I don't know just how far down you went to fix the problems. So I start at a lower level.
If removed, first is the floor cover, then the foot pads. Also if removed now would be the time to install the side dress panels under the foot rest area. Then arrange the rear side panels, mine were both connected at the rear so they went on together. As you are getting the side panels arranged find the tail light cable connecter and attach it to the cable on the right side under the right rear panel. Also make sure you have replaced the key lock and cables on the left side panel. Then complete the rear side panel arrangement and put in the screws. Put the small panel in above the tail light assembly. Move up to the two tubs above the engine. Put in the rear tub first then place and mount the front tub. Now you need to install the spring bracket for the seat. And finally the seat itself.
The last step would be to install the carrier and trunk. All together they only need three bolts installed to hold them. This can be done before or after the seat is installed.
I hope I did not miss anything.
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Post by bobf on Jul 1, 2012 9:25:17 GMT -6
Be glad you missed the winds last week.
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Post by bobf on Jun 29, 2012 9:20:00 GMT -6
JR, you said hilly central. Not sure where that is for sure. A few years back we were looking for a retirement place and spent time in Arkansas. We stayed in a hotel in Mountain home and traveled from there. We saw some nice looking brick homes but we did not just look into homes. We were mostly driving around and looking at places in town or country. We took one day to go to Branson Missouri, did not like that area to live in. We also looked further west, closer to Oklahoma. We also had a package sent to us from a place just west of Little Rock. A private town with gates and all. We saw lots of nice looking areas but none my leader wanted to move too. She wanted no more humidity after our several years in Florida. So we focused on west Colorado and now Arizona, hot but no humidity.
I have not ridden lately due to my health and eye operation. But I have tried to ride when it was just about 100. I did not go far or long on time and my head turned to a sweat swamp in that helmet. I guess I could ride like a Harley man and just use a scarf or towel on the head. But I have a fractured head from a brain surgery so I need a helmet. How do riders handle the heat in a helmet? I have a JCL with several vents but they don't seem to do much good.
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Post by bobf on Jun 28, 2012 15:02:29 GMT -6
You are very lucky you are not having the usual high humidity for Arkansas. I know what it is there as I was an eastern raised and working person. I remember seeing water dripping off roof edges in the mornings. News papers so limp they would not stand up to be read. But over 100 is a bit much no matter where you live.
Now living in Arizona so the numbers you speak of are just daily temps here. A big difference for us compared to you is the A/C inside temp used. We always set the temp to 78. We don't like the refrigerator chill that we find in too many stores and restaurants so we set it at 78. Even when we lived in south Florida we used 78 as a good temperature. Not cold but on often enough to wring out the humidity and help control the mold in the closets. Hot and humid is living in hell.
Good luck with your garden. Water is necessary for a productive garden. In Colorado and Arizona there are water usage rules so it may become hard to have a good garden.
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Post by bobf on Jun 16, 2012 13:11:13 GMT -6
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Post by bobf on Jun 15, 2012 12:36:30 GMT -6
A lot of us really do like the way our country has operated and offered freedom, liberty, responsibility, to all of us. Our country is filled with many variations of landscapes and waterways. Lots to see and lots to do. From where ever you are coming I hope you have a good experience with your proposed change.
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Post by bobf on Jun 14, 2012 18:05:30 GMT -6
I finally got a photo to post so I may have corrected myself.
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Post by bobf on Jun 14, 2012 12:37:35 GMT -6
For some reason I can not get my photos to appear. All I get are the warnings about being moved or deleted. I am trying to use the photo image file and it says to copy the IMG Code. Which is what I was thinking I was doing. Just does not work but in the past I had no problems. So what has changed? Or is it just my misunderstanding of the photo notes.
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Post by bobf on Jun 14, 2012 12:09:03 GMT -6
2008 MC 54 250B, Jonway 244cc, built by Shanghai JMStar Motorcycle Company The location and repair of the lock not working problem. As I worked on this problem for a week I tried different ways to fix what I thought was the problem. 1. First was to reinforce the cable holding fingers on the side latch assembly. After shutting and noticing that the rear latch was not catching the seat I noticed that the fingers were getting bent further toward the middle of the side latch. So I bent them back and reinstalled on the frame. That did not work but for a closing or two. Then no more latching at the back and often I had to use a long screw driver under the seat to release the side latch. 2. Next I determined to reinforce those tabs by adding some heavier steel to stop the bending. I used some spare file key lock pawls and glued them on with JB weld. One on the outside as shown and another on the inside where the cable guide is mounted. Seemed like a good idea but still the latch works sometimes and fails other times continued. That is a slow fix as each time I use JB weld it takes 24 hours till usage for maximum strength. 3. Then I noticed that the side latch was slow to respond to the turn of the key. Often not working and sometimes works on the second or third effort. Usually I had to work under the seat with a long screwdriver to release the seat. So, again, I took the side latch assembly off and removed the spring, and both cables. Now I could freely swing the mechanical parts, but the one element was not free as I expected it to be. This I could see had been dragging on the upright part of the assembly as it was becoming scratched. I took a heavy screwdriver and put it under the part that was dragging and lift it a bit. Now that element was free to go where it needed to go. So I then sprayed graphite lube into both the side and rear latches. 4. Successful test next. I reinstalled the latch assembly with both cables now attached. I closed the seat, both side and rear latches caught. Turned the key and the seat popped up. Repeated this many times with no failures. Went to bed and restarted the testing this morning with still no failures. It seems to be fixed. 5. In the process of reinstalling all the plastic parts, the battery, the lights on the rear, and finally the outside skin. When that is completed I will be able to install the seat and trunk. Then it should all be set to go riding again. Final test will be to lock the seat and determine that the latches are working fine. 6. Finished assembly today, finally. I have had the covers on and off several times yesterday and today. I dropped a nut and could not find it with my eye's, my magnet, my wife's eyes. Had to go to Lowe's for a matching nut. Then found that a slip on speed nut was missing, back to Lowe's for some of those. Today I dropped a screw and could not find that so back to Lowe's for that. Now I have the machine together and some spare parts. 7. How the latch works. As the loop on the bottom of the seat enters the side latch it pulls the front to back cable and that allows the back latch to lock. So it is important to make sure the back loop is entering the rear latch as, or before, the side loop enters the side latch. So I found that pulling the rear part of the seat down smartly does make the latches more reliable. Much better latch today. Sometimes might miss the back latch but one more effort seems to work. The red arrows indicate direction of the cables when locking. When the key is turned it reverses the cable action and pulls the side latch locking component toward the front to unlatch it and that then allows the spring on the rear latch enough slack for it to unlock. This is only for the latch look see and repair. I will also post the machine tear down photo's later. |
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Post by bobf on Jun 13, 2012 17:23:12 GMT -6
I know that you can sign on to Roketa web site as a customer, not dealer, and get to order items from their parts store. I have not done that yet but did sign on. You can look at your scoot on the forum and see the parts list for it for part numbers and prices.
Some one here may have a favorit local dealer/parts supplier too.
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Post by bobf on Jun 10, 2012 19:14:36 GMT -6
I would being interested in how you fix it  I got my scoot February 2011 and the rear latch has never worked, only the side latch works, Bob I'm glad your doing better  hope your on the road soon, take care. Richard First thing to do is be prepared for a tear down of the rear half. You need to get to both the front and side latches. Would suggest that you remove them, take off the cables, make sure that all the cams are really free and not dragging. I won't have time right now but I intend to do a write up with pictures on how to do the tear down. For you it might be a job for off season activity. Damin69 has a good idea about pushing down on the rear of the seat just a bit faster than the side. As I was sitting there and constantly pushing down the seat I finally figured out the methodology of the second cable and the rear latch. As the side bar on the seat enters the latch it pushes the latch part to the side and that pulls the cable that goes to the rear latch and releases the locking part on the rear latch. So if the side bar enters too quickly it may release the lock before the rear bar gets there and it can not enter at all. The rear down first motion may save you from a tear down. I will do the tear down with comments, just don't know when. I will have the comments and photos of the latch areas soon. . |
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Post by bobf on Jun 10, 2012 15:18:57 GMT -6
Well, I think I have fixed the seat locks on my 2008 MC 54 250B with the Honda clone vertical engine.
I bought it over a year ago and shortly after unpacking and doing a basic PDI I noticed the rear lock for the seat was not working. I wrote about this and got some efforts to fix but I waited for a long time for a tear down period.
Since I bought the scoot in February and received it in March of 2011 I have only been able to put on 78 miles. First it was way too cold in Cortez Colorado. Since a year ago July I have had many problems with my health. I had shingles and the doctors had me on some rather strong medicines that were technically not be used and driving too. Strange feelings of dizziness for two months. We were also traveling to Arizona looking for a house. Last October we closed on a house in Casa Grande AZ and started our move down. We moved on December 23.
Immediately I was in the doctors office and it turned out to be sever kidney problems. Left kidney already treated and the right kidney will be taken care of this summer in August. Shortly after the left kidney fix I had my eyes checked. The left eye was cleared for surgery so that was done. Now I can see pretty well for mid and long distance. I can't get glasses for a few more weeks. And the older glasses don't work any more. So technically I am not to be driving as my license calls for glasses.
So once again I am not pushing my scoot riding for any reason. It is still registered in Colorado and not in Arizona. I can not go change my drover license to Arizona as if they ask me to do the eye test I will fail and getting the scoot registered means I have to drive it to the DMV.
Good time for fixing the failed seat latch. Which I have been doing recently. I think I have finally fixed it and have the scoot near almost all back together. Will finish that in the next day or two. I plan to write that up, with photo's and comments. I did so many things to the side latch and rear latch but nothing seemed to help. But late yesterday evening I noticed something dragging in the side latch. Applied a bit of pressure with my screw driver persuader and the drag was gone. So this morning I sat there and closed and opened the seat many times with no problems. That is why I kept locking and unlocking the seat. Expecting a random failure, which did not happen any more. I now have the black plastics back in place, the battery installed, and the rear colored panel laying loosely over everything. Everything seems OK at this point. All lights working on the rear so I got them plugged in correctly. I need some RTV for installing the screws on the plastics so tomorrow is shopping time for the wife and I will buy some new RTV and finish the job of assembly.
It is a bit hard doing garage time and working on the scoot. No cooling for the garage. We are running in the 90's and our highs are over the 100 mark with 111 being our hottest so far. It really sucks the ambition right out of me.
So I will finish the install and then put together the comments and photo's of what I did and how it is working now.
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Post by bobf on May 31, 2012 11:47:45 GMT -6
Isn't Bowling Green Ky home to a nice school? I don't remember which school it was but do remember seeing a school there, on a hill top, looked nice to me. But then I did not stop their, I was just passing through.,,
On the other hand, living away from home and the parents is a great way to develop independence in young folks. If you have already instilled the proper thinking into their heads they will survive without problems. Both my son and daughter have managed to get degrees and are not drinkers or doing drugs, but those temptations were indeed available.
Congratulations. Good wishes to you new college student.
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Post by bobf on May 28, 2012 10:54:22 GMT -6
Looks to me to be a two crop area. I grew up in northern Ohio and there is an area up that had what we called truck farms. They started very early in the spring and were selling by June. Then they could replant and have a second harvest by late August or September. Very good radishes, carrots, lettuce, corn, berries, cabbage, and on and on. Soil was so good in some of those areas it would be black when turned. Even some where it would catch fire under ground and then spread through the fields.
Did anyone mention crab apple yet?
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Post by bobf on May 16, 2012 15:46:36 GMT -6
That is a great price for a new scooter. I paid $1995 for my 2008. After looking at the photo's and reading the description I don't see anything new about this scooter. Same brags about Japanese or Taiwan parts for added quality. I was wondering if it had injection fuel, but no.
But for welling your older scoot it is important to remember just how buyers operate these days. It does not matter if a garage sale, car, house, there are multiple parts to the deal. Set an asking price and be ready for an offer. Now what you will accept and bargain your way down.
I remember in garage sales my wife would have and she was offering some real good values at giveaway prices. Ask 25 cents and the buyers would almost always want to offer only a nickle or dime. They will do that for the scooter too. Ask, get offer, attempt to negotiate to agreement, it is sold.
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