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Post by wheezy on Aug 28, 2014 8:34:56 GMT -6
Isn't the 54B-250 the vertical engine, as opposed to the 54-250B horizontal? Every time I think I have that right I read something that says otherwise. Dunno. I'm just going by the title Roketa Parts Dept assigned to the parts diagram. All this confusion is why I never will buy a scooter item without verifying 100% it's the right parts. For instance, my rear wheel was only stocked by scrappydog. But almost every other site stated it was a direct fit. Not so, screw holes are entirely different. And most of these folks don't have clear return policies. So, I emailed scrappy, and they measured the screw holes for me. Good to find someone that will work with you.
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Post by wheezy on Aug 27, 2014 16:22:54 GMT -6
Thanks. I saw that one, but $4.20 plus shipping for one nut. The Roketa MC-54B-250 has the same horizontal engine as my JCL MP250A, so it probably was the correct one to order. But they didn't list the thread pitch, so I wasn't sure. I hit Ace Hardware today and picked up a M14x2.00 and a M14x1.5. The correct one was the M14x1.5. Only cost a buck and a half!
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Post by wheezy on Aug 26, 2014 18:18:39 GMT -6
Yep, broke 10,000 on my MP250A It's been a lot more reliable than I thought it would have. That's the good news. Now, for the bad. In the last two weeks I have been a victim of TFOB (things falling off bike). The first was I lost one of the two muffler bolts. Bummer, but at least I had the other to take to the parts store and get a M10x1.25x50. The correct length would have been a 55mm, but nobody had a 55, only 50 or 60. I got the 50mm and it works good, put threadlocker on it this time. Now the scary bad news. I noticed a slight shimmy in my rear wheel. I was only a couple miles away so figured I would check it once I got home. Bad mistake, as now I have no axle nut. Yep, it's gone. Turns out the 'ROKETA MC-54B AUTO-LOCKING NUT M14' isn't so auto locking after all. So now I am looking locally for the nut. Does anyone have the exact size for the axle nut? M14 is one clue, but what thread pitch? Thanks.
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Post by wheezy on Jun 27, 2014 16:15:12 GMT -6
No, it will not the CLUTCH ASSEMBELY consists of the PULLEY and the CLUTCH. In order for the clutch pads to be thrown out the PULLEY has to be turning to spin the clutch WHICH IN TURN GRABS the bell WHICH then turns your wheel. So you can put you scoot on the center stand with the wheel off the ground and spin the tire as fast as you want the only thing that will be turning is the BELL BUT NOT THE CLUTCH ASSEMBLEY. Alleyoop You are right. I misremembered a bit. My clutch was already engaged when my motor quit. If engaged, it will stay locked until the rpms drop. But yes if the clutch has not yet engaged, spinning the rear wheel wont be enough to engage it.
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Post by wheezy on Jun 27, 2014 13:11:06 GMT -6
I agree. I know from experience when my bike was stalling that the clutch will remain engaged until very low speeds.
The only way to keep the engine from turning is to remove the belt.
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Post by wheezy on Jun 27, 2014 9:57:22 GMT -6
Yeah, personally, I'd just put some kind of screen over the end of the hose. It's not much oil that comes out, but some does. And it would keep any crawlies out of the open end. Tie it where it won't spray on anything hot as well.
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Post by wheezy on Jun 27, 2014 8:26:56 GMT -6
Wheezy, will plugin the crankcase hose like that cause any pressure buildup in the crankcase? Or hurt it for that matter? Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Nah, it won't harm anything. The pressure is already there, and trust me, looks for any hole to oil out of.
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Post by wheezy on Jun 26, 2014 10:43:33 GMT -6
What about if I left the tubes connected to the factory airbox and just remove the tube going to the carb, and then just put my aftermarket filter out the carb. Would that work? Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk It would work but would be ineffective. The purpose of those two hoses is to return fuel/oil vapors back to the intake to be reburned. Leaving them connected to an unused airbox would not reburn the gases. Both of these are emissions related. The cranckase tube returns pressurized blow-by gases to the intake. If removed from the cranckase cover, you would end up with atomized oil residue everywhere, plus the downside of allowing water to enter directly into the case. The fuel hose sucks away excess fuel vapors that accumulate in the tank. You can plug the crankcase hose and tie it to the frame up under the seat pan. For the fuel, you can remove the big hose altogether. Remove the little hose from the neck of the tank, and clamp on a 2 dollar fuel filter, leaving the other end of the filter higher than the tank. (tie it to the frame as well.) Leave the vacuum line connected to the fuel canister (or plug it VERY good) to keep carb intake vacuum. They also make THIS, but you have to take your plastics off to access the tank.
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Post by wheezy on May 20, 2014 8:34:14 GMT -6
The belt set all the way in the v on variator. When you increase rpm the belt is moving to the outside of variator. but at the clutch it is staying all the way in the bottom of clutch pulley. I thought it moved out at the clutch as it moved in on variator? Thanks Wheezy Sounds as if the clutch boss is sticking. The clutch gets dirt and grime in between the boss and slider disk, causing it to seize and stick. It happened to mine. I had to disassemble the clutch using a 1 and 13/16 inch socket attached to an impact wrench, then cleaned and applied whith lithium grease to the boss and slider disk. There are some videos on Youtube of how to disassemble the clutch.
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Post by wheezy on May 20, 2014 6:05:11 GMT -6
Remember that the RPM is measured on the motor, not the clutch. Keeping that in mind, if the variator is not fully seated on the boss, it effectively changes the gear ratio at the clutch. You may be running 900, but the clutch could be running quicker now because the variator is farther out, forcing the drive belt to ride higher. Check the variator area to make sure it is seated correctly.
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Post by wheezy on May 19, 2014 5:54:28 GMT -6
Not absolutely sure on rollers, but mine came with an 856x23 Gates Powerlink belt.
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Post by wheezy on May 16, 2014 19:49:14 GMT -6
Alley, i cant speak for OP, but in my case I don't think changing the mix or jets would have solved anything. According to the fuel level indicated by my drain hose, my jets are likely submerged, so much that the atomizer holes could not function. Literally, the level was equal to the bottom of the venturi itself. I got a pic, but it is low quality so not worth posting.
I looked into the fuel injection upgrade everyone talks about. It has the ecm and o2 sensor that would compensate like you were talking about. Just can't justify 400 bucks right now.
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Post by wheezy on May 16, 2014 13:58:34 GMT -6
Good that it is running good now, but I have to say if it started to act up and then you backed off the throttle and it settled down then it was to RICH to much fuel. IF when you backed off the throttle a little the sped up it was to LEAN. There are tricks of the trade I put up here in the TIPS AND TRICKS section and or AIR AND FUEL SECTION that tells you what the MOTOR needs either by the sound it makes or like the trick of the trade I just mentioned. The carbs on these scoots are really pretty simple and only a couple of things gets them out of sync with the amount of air and fuel. It could save you lots of time and money if you guys would check out the info on here. Alleyoop The problem though is that the symptoms are sometimes not that black and white. Take my bike, for example. It never would make the classic rich or lean sounds, no popping, no backfiring. What i noticed, only over time, was a pattern in how it would act. It runs better in the morning than the afternoon. In the morning I could go full throttle, the afternoon it would cut out after 3/4 throttle. I ride 45 miles home, and it would cut out almost in the exact same locations every day. The only commonality was temperature, humidity, and load. In the morning, the cooler, less dense air would mask the richness. The warm, more dense (especially with humidity in Florida) air would bring out the rich symptoms. The hills I ride through would really load the bike, and it would stall. 30 seconds of cranking would get me to the next hill. But then once I passed through the hills, the last 15 miles would be stall free. The symptoms never added up to rich OR lean. Until..... I kept asking myself why a bike with the same jets and mixture as last year would suddenly not run right this year. Nothing had changed, other than the age of the rubber materials in the carb. Why should I be changing jets when it ran fine before? Seems I would be masking some other problem. The valves, vacuum, and all the other suspects were ruled out over time. After playing with the float for almost two straight weeks, here's what I noticed. The float shutoff valve would either be fully closed allowing in no gas at all, or the carb would flood from too much fuel. There was no happy medium. I adjusted the float tang all through its range, and it still would either not open or flood. I only noticed the flooding once I installed a clear bowl drain hose, so I could monitor the fuel level real-time. So, in my opinion based on weeks of toying with this, is that the rubber stop on the float valve gets worn (it still LOOKS the same to me). It's just not doing the job anymore of controlling the flow. After all, my scoot is 7 years old, and who knows how much older the carb is. I also have a new carb on the way. Hopefully, this does it. But, like rsw1158, a new carb (or even a rebuild kit) may be the solution to a whole lot of these Jonways having the same stalling issue.
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Post by wheezy on May 6, 2014 13:16:40 GMT -6
I took advice from a post on another site and installed a clear carb drain hose in order to guage my fuel level in the float bowl. I have adjusted the float tang several times and verified it's at 19mm before the spring is compressed. The carb is running super rich it appears, to the point where the mixture screw does nothing. When I checked the level in the drain hose, it's even with the fuel line, well above the jet passages. From a side view, it appears to almost be in the venturi itself.
My question for the carb experts is this: Should the jets be fully submerged like this? I think not, but want some more opinions. Thanks.
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Post by wheezy on Apr 28, 2014 7:12:55 GMT -6
Bones, if it were making it past the rings, even at such a samll rate to not make smoke, you likely would still have a fouled plug. Check your spark plug for oil deposits.
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