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Post by bobf on Sept 2, 2012 16:07:52 GMT -6
What I have is also known as a YY250T and the CF Moto clone has the radiator under the battery cover. Two screws and carefully lift off. Not a difficult place to look.
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Post by bobf on Sept 2, 2012 15:18:15 GMT -6
Is there a opening in your radiator? There must be some entrance for the coolants. If so you should try to find a proper cap for the radiator as they should be run with a few pounds of pressure to operate properly. That may be why you are having heating problems. Make sure the system is properly filled with 50-50 aluminum friendly coolant. Burp if recently filled. On my scoot I took the hose across the bottom of the radiator and would squeeze it repeatedly. Filling the radiator after each session of burping. When it would take a burping without going down again, I put the cap back on the radiator to hold the pressure. Mine runs fine now. My scoot is a MC 54 250 with a vertical water cooled engine. A CF Moto clone of the Honda engine.
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Post by bobf on Sept 2, 2012 13:16:18 GMT -6
Now you are talking about me with over 220 lbs. Not much though.
On further reading I also came across the idea of marking the center line of each lamp so I can see if they are straight or right or left of center. I tried this morning so it would be cool but the sun was shining straight at my target so now I am waiting for a darker period later this afternoon. It will be hotter than now but maybe it won't take too long to check and correct.
I don't plan on riding at night but I do want the lights to be set reasonably. Sometimes during the day I come across M/C's that have their lights right into my eyes. No need to do that to other drivers, day or night.
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Post by bobf on Sept 1, 2012 13:38:44 GMT -6
OK, I Googled 'proper headlight adjustment motorcycles'. Most of the posts I looked at used 25' as the distance and one line at the same height as the center of the headlight for the high beams and a second 2" lower for the lower beams. They also talk about a center line so I created one of those too. So now I have a plywood panel with the two horizontal lines and the center line. Pretty hot so I will just wait till tomorrow morning when it is cooler to take the scoot out and align it with the board 25' apart.
I will easily be able to set the lamps to the levels indicated starting with the low beam line. If the high beam seems reasonable then I leave things alone. If too high for the high beams then I will compromise the two settings with the lines.
One thing I never found was how the head lights were to relate to the center line. Should they both match the center line, on high or low setting. Should they lights be a bit right of center to avoid blinding the coming traffic, or is that built into the high and low beams at the bulb manufacturer's plant? Nothing I found was really clear so I will have to do the best I can and make my own judgements.
Anyone know of real specs on alignment just jump in and let me know.
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Post by bobf on Sept 1, 2012 7:24:41 GMT -6
Amazing that Florida has dropped auto inspections. When I lived in South Florida we had inspections. A sudden stop platform to test each wheels braking. The headlight station as you described. Paper work check and general appearance and other items they looked at.
Well in Colorado and Arizona where I have lived in recent years safety has taken second place to emissions tests.
My earlier post said 'care manual' but I really meant 'car manual' so I will change that next.
I wonder where that post from a year ago may have gone?
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Post by bobf on Aug 31, 2012 19:49:36 GMT -6
Topic has been posted before but no responses, so I try again. I feel like it was well covered about a year or so back but no matter what I search for I never come up with a headlight adjustment for my scooter.
I have a car manual that I was thinking of using for instructions. Things like distance from the target wall. Height of light location centers - at, above, or below, the lamps height from ground. I assume this would be enough to get me approximate to right.
Any thoughts on this set up?
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Post by bobf on Aug 31, 2012 17:29:15 GMT -6
Well I finally got those two screws back in.
Today I finally finished getting those last two screws into the front panel behind the wheel. Three days of working on it for an hour or two each day with no success. Was talking with the wife about it and made a comment about the factory. I said I bet they use some form of tooling to hold everything in place till they get the screws inserted. That got me to thinking.
So I went back to the garage at over 100 temp. Took a long and slim Phillips screwdriver and pushed it through the plastic and also the part with the tinnerman nut on it. Then took a needle nose vise grip over both to hold them together. Pulled the Phillips screwdriver and everything stayed in place. Inserted a screw and tightened it up. Then for the lower one I was able to insert the screwdriver through the holes. No place for the clamp so with one hand held panel in place, pulled the screwdriver, got a screw inserted, then with a larger screwdriver I was able to push down on the screw and get a few turns going before letting pressure off. It took a few turns and tightened up. Success at last. Primitive tooling but it did help a lot. Now tomorrow I hope to end the panel installation and get a look at wiring and such while it is open. Also want to do a headlight adjustment before I put the top panel and the windshield and cover back on. I hope for a drop in temperatures in another week or two so that I can start riding again. At least in the mornings.
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Post by bobf on Aug 31, 2012 16:28:29 GMT -6
How are your front brake pads? Are you depending on just the rear brakes when stopping?
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Post by bobf on Aug 31, 2012 16:20:05 GMT -6
Today I finally finished getting those last two screws into the front panel behind the wheel. Three days of working on it for an hour or two each day with no success. Was talking with the wife about it and made a comment about the factory. I said I bet they use some form of tooling to hold everything in place till they get the screws inserted. That got me to thinking.
So I went back to the garage at over 100 temp. Took a long and slim Phillips screwdriver and pushed it through the plastic and also the part with the tinnerman nut on it. Then took a needle nose vise grip over both to hold them together. Pulled the Phillips screwdriver and everything stayed in place. Inserted a screw and tightened it up. Then for the lower one I was able to insert the screwdriver through the holes. No place for the clamp so with one hand held panel in place, pulled the screwdriver, got a screw inserted, then with a larger screwdriver I was able to push down on the screw and get a few turns going before letting pressure off. It took a few turns and tightened up. Success at last. Primitive tooling but it did help a lot. Now tomorrow I hope to end the panel installation and get a look at wiring and such while it is open. Also want to do a headlight adjustment before I put the top panel and the windshield and cover back on. I hope for a drop in temperatures in another week or two so that I can start riding again. At least in the mornings.
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Post by bobf on Aug 31, 2012 10:50:57 GMT -6
Well, JR, I was OK with that article while they talked of climate changes. But when they started to talk about Global Warming and the human caused crisis my attention diverted. I can not get excited about those claims as there are many scientist that disagree with the man made global warming. And within the federal agencies that get quoted so often too. I will go with the cyclic changes that are being recorded over centuries and longer as we study weather cycles more closely. The world has been very warm at times, tropical animals living in Alaska for example. Dinosaurs, mammoths, sabre tooth tigers. ferns, palm type trees. No industry back in those days. So how did all that happen then? I think we have many more questions than we do of answers. This GW stuff is just costing us lots of time and money for possibly no reason at all.
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Post by bobf on Aug 30, 2012 18:51:55 GMT -6
Well, JR, it seems that after this week you could call the drought ended. At least for a while.
Some pretty sad areas south of you with flooding and damage from the storm. I would hope that in your area there would not be too much damage form winds but maybe some areas of flooding.
Time for a few days off the garden and take some time to relax or read. Probably not ride as there will be some messy roads to maneuver. Maybe even some break from those hot days too.
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Post by bobf on Aug 30, 2012 7:41:42 GMT -6
Richard, those two screws are the ones you already mentioned as being behind the front wheel. I have two on the left side of the scoot inserted and tight. Now I am struggling with the two on the right side of the scoot, still behind the front wheel. No I don't have any pics of this area. The panel gets screwed to the air scoop item.
I am thinking I need to loosen up the panel on the right side so I can get to the Tinnerman nuts and make sure they are tight and over the hole in the plastic. If they are not well aligned there is no way to get the screws to align and clamp the two parts. So I may take time tomorrow to loosen the plastic a bit so I can get my hands in there to check the nuts. Not today as I have things to do this morning and by the time we do the banking, shopping, etc., the heat will be on again. We start at about 95 and then go up. Yesterday it was 107, not sure for today but anything over 100 is a bit much for me.
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Post by bobf on Aug 29, 2012 17:27:27 GMT -6
Thanks Richard, I have already done all that and am now trying to get things back together. Stuck on getting the two screws into the right side of the panel, What you described would be the removal process. I think, Or are you suggesting that I undo everything and then try to get those two screw installed.
I have not spent much time on it today but may have some time tomorrow if not too hot. It is 107 today. What I tried to do today was push a stiff wire into the hole and tried to get it to line up with the Tinnerman nut. Just did not happen yet, Still worth another try as I was thinking that if one hole was pulled into position then the other hole would be real close too.
Any other comments or clarifications of your post would be appreciated.
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Post by bobf on Aug 29, 2012 7:34:13 GMT -6
My question too JR. I posted the problems I am having getting the front cover back on two days ago and have used the search method to find what I am sure is somewhere on this forum. About a year or so back there was one very detailed description of how to align the head lights. It gave directions in height of lite centers, distance back from a reflecting wall, center line of the bike and carried to the wall for centering, and some description of right or left leaning direction of the beams. I am ready for this information right now but still would like some tips from someone who has reinstalled this front panel of a MC 54 250. Must be thousands of them in use so at least a few have had the front panel off and reinstalled. My problem location is the wrap around portion behind the front wheel. The holes are not aligned and difficult to work with using my left hand. After much time I got the left side connected with screws but the right side is near impossible to reach for me, let alone line up the holes and insert a screw. Any help ideas would be great Both for head light aiming and putting the panel back on at the front bottom. thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=discussion&action=display&thread=1851. |
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Post by bobf on Aug 27, 2012 13:25:05 GMT -6
OK, I did finally get the front panel off. Took the left headlight assembly out. Took it apart and found two of the three sliding mounts for adjustment were connected and the third was just floating. The slot the adjusting nut slides in was bent so I straightened that out and worked the three into position. Now I should be able to adjust the headlights.
Now for the worst problem I have had with this operation. I need to get two screws into each side of the lower inside front panel to the plastic grill in front of the gas tank area. The front panels and the grill have both got their own idea of straight. I am on my knees trying to hold them together and putting a screw into a slot I can barely see and not knowing if the screw and tinnerman nut are aligned. I think I need two more hands but there is barely enough room behind the front wheel as it is. I tried a vise grip but could not get that to work well either. I aligning and clamping are two skill I must not have.
I was able to secure the left side, drivers view, and am now stuck on the right side. I think I spent about an hour to get those two screws in on the left side and have spent that much time on the right side but not one screw installed yet.
Any ideas from you more experienced panel removing and reinstalling folks?
Thinking back a lot of years and I think Cushman had the best idea. Not sleek and sexy but plenty of functional. Their covers were held on by a few buckle clamps. sure wish I had something functional right now. No wonder shop service is so expensive with these scooters.
It is now just past noon and 102 and climbing so I may just wait till tomorrow morning and try again in a cool 90 morning temp.
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