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Post by JR on Dec 21, 2015 20:42:56 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Dec 21, 2015 19:35:55 GMT -6
Dang right! I've got some tabs on panels that need repairing now!
JR
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Post by JR on Dec 5, 2015 22:40:44 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Dec 5, 2015 9:33:28 GMT -6
Sounds more like a battery with a dead cell. |
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Post by JR on Dec 4, 2015 14:45:35 GMT -6
Ok thanks for that info and I do understand that things like the blinker, fuel gauge and even the brake lights work long with the horn when you turn the key on. So when you say tail lights are you saying tail lights that are on all the time just like the headlights or are you talking about the brake lights dim along with the blinkers?
The diagram shows that the tail lights also will only be on when the engine is running not when the key is on?
Question have you had this battery checked? Some batteries will fail immediately with a load on them but show good voltage with no load.
JR
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Post by JR on Dec 4, 2015 10:39:00 GMT -6
Nope and I just noticed something that I should have caught, the lights as in headlights aren't supposed to come on unless the scooter is running, if your lights come on with the key on you've either changed them, someone else did or you've got a wire crossed causing the issues, here is the Sunny 50cc manual with a wiring diagram. Extremely rare for a 50cc scooter to have lights come on with the key turned on: .wep.co.nz/wep/member-images/229/file/Sunny50Handbook.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> .wep.co.nz/wep/member-images/229/file/Sunny50Handbook.pdfPage 24 confirms this, when you turn the key on only the fuel gauge should move and no lights at all. If you have lights come on when turning the key on you have something wrong. JR |
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Post by JR on Dec 3, 2015 17:40:21 GMT -6
It could be a bad switch not passing voltage properly or a almost grounded out wire when you turn the key on that's sucking the voltage down? Unplug the key switch and see if you have 12.7Vdc on the red wire to the key switch from the battery then take a little jumper and jump the red to the black and then see if the lights dim and if the voltage drops, if not then it's a bad key switch, if the voltage does drop then the search continues.
JR
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Post by JR on Dec 2, 2015 20:58:14 GMT -6
inca32 My next step would be to make sure you are getting power to the key switch. Take the front off and make sure the key switch is plugged in good, connections can come loose especially the plugs. also when you say the fuse is good you mean it is for sure passing 12Vdc and this is just not a visible inspection. Fuses sometimes can look good and actually be bad. J
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Post by JR on Nov 30, 2015 19:01:42 GMT -6
Thanks you Rapidjim, Great information. But very, very, very unfortunately everybody say's the same thing, weight first then start testing different slider weights until you get the right one. Not one person on this forum said " Here's the original roller weight, it's a good starting place", are those numbers a secret or something..? Roketa, Jonway, I get nothing from them. Again, I an not a mechanic, I can not open the engine over and over to test and find the perfect weight. I do not have a impact wench to remove the bell housing to get to the rollers. The shop is very busy and does not want to do so much time consuming work, and be way to costly. Again, they are always busy, motorcycles, scooters, ATV's, Snowmobiles, everything, mini bikes, boats. They are the only shop who works on imports, Chinese, Taiwan, Indonesia, as well as Big name brands. And by the way, NO motorcycle repair shop, Honda, local dealers, out of town shops, No one will work on Chinese bikes. They call them Chinese rockets and twist and go's. OK, just to make sure you guys get it. I am totally at the mercy of the ONE MECHIANIC who is willing to work on my bike but make it a test case. Well, I guess I will have to through in the towel and sell my bike.....I can find no hope here. I'm sure your all correct but that does not help me in any way. They're not a secret barry we told you what we knew. I even gave you a educated guess according to what I've seen others have at 24g. Also you just told me another thing about your "so called" mechanic, he actually took it apart and told you that new rollers were needed? Then he put it back together? How much time would it have took you to get them weighed so you both would know, in fact since he's getting paid to know or find out what would have been wrong for him to have done it? Money short, I'm understanding but for him to tell you to get the parts when if he was a real mechanic he would have known they have to be weighed and didn't is all a bunch of BS. I'll promise you he can't just look at any name brand scooter and know the weight of them either. Sorry if I sound harsh but you seem to think we are supposed to know something that your mechanic doesn't know and doesn't want to take the time to find out, again he had the damn thing apart and could have weighed them then, he took your money for nothing IMO. Money is money and being busy is no excuse , hell being busy if you're in business is a good thing, doesn't make a dang what you're working on. My money is just as green to pay you to work on a Chinese scooter as a name brand. If you sell your scooter because you can't take our information to your mechanic, pay him to take a cover off ( a 20 minute job) and have him to let you get the rollers weighed to order new ones then I'm sorry you have a mechanic that is either stupid, lazy or both. |
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Post by JR on Nov 30, 2015 7:31:00 GMT -6
If the scooter is running fine and not having any issued with the rollers then don't worry about it and ride it. Sliders are used when people want to change the scooter a little to their own liking and/or if the rollers start having problems it's just as easy to go to sliders instead.
If I knew the OEM weight I would tell you but as I mentioned the Chinese can use varying weights, if you want a guess I'll tell you 24grams but if you buy 23 grams and don't like it then blame your mechanic that doesn't want your money not me, in fact if the mechanic told me what he told you I would tell him to piss off and find another mechanic. He's not much of a mechanic if he doesn't want to help you figure out something when you are paying him.
As far as finding out it's a matter of a 20 minute job if he has the tools and wants to work instead of make excuses on experimental shit. If he was any kind of mechanic he would know the Chinese are like that and if I'm betting he couldn't tell you the OEM weight of any name brand scooter either.
We gave you help in a way that you could change to sliders if you like, you or your mechanic don't like our answer so if you and him aren't willing to do what it takes to find out what you need then sell the scooter, ride it like it is, or find a mechanic that likes to earn a buck and help his customers instead of being a half ass mechanic.
I'm no mechanic either but it's not rocket science to take a cover off, open up a variator take the rollers to the local post office and use their gram scale to weigh them, I own 5 scooters and did it on all 5. If I wanted I could pull the scooter in my kitchen and do it sitting in a chair.
JR
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Post by JR on Nov 29, 2015 9:19:53 GMT -6
Thanks rooman, How much do the stock rollers weight..? Do you remember..? barry Relying on getting a weight from someone elses scooter is a gamble, why? The Chinese are famous for putting different weights in their engines, sometimes it's as simple as "this is what we have on the shelf today so use them" He can tell you his weight and yours may be one to two grams different either way. I own two linhais and I put sliders in both, the best thing I ever did but the engines had two different weights. If you're going to replace them you have to pull it apart any way so if you want the best results, weigh your rollers and go from there. JR |
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by: JR - Nov 29, 2015 0:20:57 GMT -6
Post by JR on Nov 29, 2015 0:20:57 GMT -6
 schneider That's a good question, never thought about doing this? Let me see if I can find some info? JR
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Post by JR on Nov 29, 2015 0:19:24 GMT -6
jennkarley Go to the 50 to 200cc section and we'll get you fixed up! JR
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Post by JR on Nov 25, 2015 23:25:54 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Nov 20, 2015 22:10:20 GMT -6
Thanks for the advice rooman ! JR |
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