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Post by JR on Jun 3, 2014 21:15:17 GMT -6
Scot I'm sorry you didn't get the help and if you'll direct me to the thread/problem I'll see what's going on. I'm also sorry that you didn't get the help you needed within a time that you felt was proper but do remember, people here along at other places give their time and help freely and a lot of people right now are out doing summer activities and not sitting around a computer, myself included.
Right now I'm into my garden, a remodel on my house, yard work, and two grandkids that I'm raising have baseball and softball all during the week and weekends so I'm not around at times either. I hope you have got it fixed, if not then let me know.
JR
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Post by JR on Jun 3, 2014 5:40:36 GMT -6
Good job Rose on the fix and I have over 12k on my 250B and she still runs like a top.
JR
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by: JR - Jun 3, 2014 5:35:35 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 3, 2014 5:35:35 GMT -6
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by: JR - Jun 1, 2014 21:36:35 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 1, 2014 21:36:35 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Jun 1, 2014 20:54:06 GMT -6
 This is a nice scooter and we have a service manual to it with a great wiring diagram:
.thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/thread/457/daelim-manuals" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> .thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/thread/457/daelim-manuals
It is the S2 125 Service manual
On page 182 is the wiring diagram. Now this is a odd cookie and it has a relay switch that is activated when the key is on that sends DC to the lo beam side of the headlights along with the tail light and license plate light a very odd system. The hi beam is not fed through this relay and should come on with just the key on and it in the Hi position.
Look at the diagram and find the light relay, betting it is out. Hope no one has messed with the wiring when you mentioned spliced?
According to the diagram this relay should have the following wire colors:
Black
Brown/white
Red
Pink
Now if this is correct and no one has compromised this scooters wiring you should be able to jump Red to Brown/white and put the dimmer switch in the lo position and the lights should burn as a test to see if the relay is bad.
JR
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Post by JR on Jun 1, 2014 18:00:23 GMT -6
Latest update:
Latest addition is a Student Tag in the Quick Reply and Normal Reply. The tag lists every member that has posted on a thread on that page. If you are replying and want to tag a certain member who posted so they can see that you have done so when they login just click on the Tag button of the member listed and it will automatically appear on your reply, can do it before you start or even in the middle of your reply.
You also have a All button which will tag everyone and a staff button which will tag every staff member if you want staff to see your post for some reason.
JR
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by: JR - May 31, 2014 21:15:30 GMT -6
Post by JR on May 31, 2014 21:15:30 GMT -6
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Post by JR on May 31, 2014 20:58:32 GMT -6
Thanks Flintstone! Yes it seems membership has been moving right along lately. Thanks for all you do and appreciate the notice.
JR
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Post by JR on May 31, 2014 20:48:58 GMT -6
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Post by JR on May 31, 2014 19:16:50 GMT -6
I'll send John a email.
JR
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by: JR - May 30, 2014 20:29:09 GMT -6
Post by JR on May 30, 2014 20:29:09 GMT -6
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Post by JR on May 30, 2014 20:27:31 GMT -6
This is always a possibility when buying Chinese parts. Good test on the turning it over and then checking the plug. You are getting gas.
So we have confirmed good wiring, getting gas, getting voltage to the CDI, good ground to CDI and kill wire working correctly. Down to two things, bad CDI or bad pulse coil, which I don't believe is the case.
You could do this simple test to just confirm our kill wire readings. Take a tiny screwdriver or bend the end of a paper clip and insert it in the tiny slot at the end of the CDI plug with the black/white wire and bend the locking tang and pull this wire from the plug. Then see if you have a spark? If not then bend the locking tang back out and re-insert the wire into the plug.
Next option is to get another CDI and I would order from one of our vendors here, tvnacman. He tests and stands behind his parts.
JR
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Post by JR on May 30, 2014 12:19:08 GMT -6
#1 is a good check this tells me that the kill wire is working correctly on the key switch and on the kill switch. Even though the reading with the kill switch is 0.56 that could be a slightly corroded kill switch but still is good enough to kill the engine when using it. This also tells me what configuration you have and that the kill wire is not grounding out the CDI in any way.
#2 is good
#3 is good.
# 4 is good and telling us the CDI is properly grounded
#5 again a hard one to read with a multi-meter but your results are exactly as mine are and my scooter is running.
So now what is going on? Good question. Just because the coil wire read correctly doesn't mean the coil is good? We have eliminated wiring and voltage possibilities except the yellow black wire going to the coil needs to be checked where it plugs into the CDI and hooks up to the coil. The ground wire to the coils need to be checked as well. Also check the plug boot and make sure it's all in good shape and making contact to the spark plug well. Should all of this check out then I would lean towards a new coil.
There is also the possibility that you bought a bad CDI? It happens.
JR
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Post by JR on May 30, 2014 10:42:14 GMT -6
#1 is kill wire, should read 0v at all times. Doesn't matter if the key is off or on, it is a ground wire. Either your meter is messing up or you have a wire touching somewhere feeding it this very small amount of current. Any voltage at all is incorrect.
#2 is 12Vdc CDI feed wire all readings are correct.
#3 is feed wire from CDI to coil, very hard to read this at all and I presume when you say with ignition you mean turning the engine over? A ordinary meter isn't fast enough to get any accurate readings on this wire, I would say the reading is incorrect but again you can't read this wire.
#4 is the ground should have 0v on all functions, grounds have no voltage, if you do have current then you've got either a hot wire crossed on it or even a possible bad ignition switch or even a incorrect CDI. Do you know for a fact you bought a DC type CDI? If you put a AC type on then it'll never run.
#5 is pulse coil (trigger) wire from the stator. With the engine turning over it should as others stated read between .5 to 2.5 Vac.
Pull the plugs out of the CDI and test each wire again like this:
#1 Set your meter to the ohms scale reading, touch both probes to each other and take note of the reading on your meter. Then with the engine kill switch in the run position, put one lead to the black/white wire, the other to the negative post of the battery, you should get no movement or ohms resistance on your meter. Then with the meter still hooked up put the kill switch in the off (engine kill) position and then take note of the reading, it should read nearly the same as when you touched the two meter leads together to start with, if not then we have a problem.
#2 is fine, it's the DC feed to the CDI with the key on, you've already confirmed this.
#3 should read 0v, nothing.
#4 is again a ground, put one lead to the negative post of the battery and the other to this green wire, it should read just like when you put the two meter lead wires together full resistance
. #5 is pulse coil feed wire, should read 0v with scooter not running. Should read from .05 to 2.5Vac with engine being turned over.
JR
Okay... First, I took a pic of my multimeter so it's clear what I mean when I talk about the settings I used to do the tests:  Going down your list here are my results: #1 (Black and White): With the multimeter set to 2000 Ohms, touching the two probes together would result with 000. With the kill switch in the "Run" position, I got no reading at all. With the kill switch in the "kill" (or off) position I get 164. I re-tested at 20k Ohms and got 000 with just the probes, no reading with the kill switch in the "Run" position, and .57 in the "Kill/Off" position. #2 (Black) Re tested just to be sure... getting 13.02 vDC on the 20 vDC setting on the multimeter. #3 (Black and Yellow): With the multimeter set to the 20 vDC setting, I get 0 vDC. I did notice that if I switched it to to the 200m vDC setting, I was picking up a reading of 11.2. #4 (Green): With the multimeter set to 200 ohms, I get .2 on the probes alone, and 6.6 on the green wire. On the 2000 ohms setting I get 000 on the probes and 000 on the green wire. Even with it disconnected from the CDI, when turning the engine over it does read .2 vDC. #5 (Red and White): I set the multimeter to 200 vAC and while turning over the engine I got 0v. When I let go of the ignition and stop turning over the engine it would jump to .6 vAC or 1.5 vAC or .9 vAC. But whenever I was actually turning the engine over, I got no reading on the vAC. That was all tested with the plugs disconnected from the CDI. I dug up the order for the new CDI that is in there and it is listed as: "6-Pin DC-CDI Box for 250cc Scooters & Go Karts", so unless they sent me the wrong one, it's a DC CDI.
OK Johnny let's start over, I went back to the first page looked at your video and saw you have the vertical engine. I have the horizontal linhai and they both use the same CDI and this is confusing but they both have 18 coil stators, the coil is the same but on your vertical engine the stator is a little smaller even though it is 18 coils.
Now the Chinese use two different wiring systems as far as how they kill the engine and use the kill switch on the handle bars and what's even more confusing is they may wire your scooter and a linhai the same or they may have them a little different, you don't know until you test, very confusing and a PITA.
So with that in mind I need you to test this system again to let me know which you have. Also on the ohm testing use the 20k setting only. I have opened up my linhai to test using the same meter set up that you have, readings may vary, but very little. Also I do not want you to do any DC voltage tests, we know the ignition key wire (black) # 2 has the proper DC voltage so that wire is OK and doesn't need to be checked again.
#1 The black/white wire put one probe to the negative post of the battery the other to this wire. Turn the key on. Make sure the handle bar kill switch is in the run position. Your meter in the 20k spot should simply have one number on it and that's a 1. Now with the probes still hooked up turn the key off, the meter should read 0.00.
Now turn the key back on and with the probes still hooked up turn the kill switch to off, take note if the meter changes readings. If it goes to 0.00 or if the meter does nothing it will tell me your wiring configuration.
#2 Black is 12Vdc is ok so move to 3.
#3 yellow/black = coil feed wire. Again on the 20k setting with key on or off doesn't matter you should read 0.00 or very close, may even be a -0.02 or -0.03 but this wire should have no reading to ground, it is a voltage feed wire from the CDI. If you have a high or significant reading it could indicate a bad coil or the coil feed wire is grounding out. Again test for ohms only at 20k
#4 green = ground again with one probe to the negative battery post and the other to this green wire turn the key off and the kill switch to the run position. If you have the system I think you do the meter should read 0.00. Now with the probes still hooked up put the kill switch in the engine kill position. If this is the system I think then the meter will go back to 1. If the meter does not change at all with the kill switch in run or kill then I know the CDI is grounded out via the black/white wire that you are testing as #1.
#5 Your test is confusing so let's do it again. Put meter on 200Vac only. With key on and engine kill switch in run position turn the engine over. The readings will jump because remember this is a coil that makes a very weak voltage signal to send a message to the CDI as to when to fire. It has one magnet that is on the flywheel that passes by the coil once every revolution so it's common for the readings to vary and go up and down.
Your coil wire readings concern me and I'm leaning to a bad/weak coil.
JR
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by: JR - May 30, 2014 4:43:01 GMT -6
Post by JR on May 30, 2014 4:43:01 GMT -6
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