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Post by justbuggin2 on Apr 15, 2012 23:56:07 GMT -6
dis connect the stator plug and take an ohm reading of the yellow wire to each other and the to the green wire i am thinking you may have gotten a bad stator
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Post by dertbikdennis on Apr 16, 2012 5:03:14 GMT -6
ok I will do that today and post up what I find.........
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 16, 2012 17:53:28 GMT -6
The black wire that gets connected to switched power from the R/R , is a voltage monitor . It gives the regulator a reference voltage at swithced power to correct output voltage on the red wire . So if the voltage starts to creep up on the output on the red the black reads it , then internally inside the regulator the voltage will be reduced , then the oppisite will happen if the voltage being read on the black drops down . If you ground the the black you will get max output from the regulator .
There was a post here when I played with the stator and regulator output , I don't remember the title . Maybe JR might remember . In any case when the scooter is running and the stator is connected to the regulator . The ACV is being loaded down by the regulator . This is why your getting the low acv readings , when I unpluged the stator I was able to measure each of the yellows to ground (again all the readings are in this other post around October or November) and yellow to yellow . I don't remember the numbers I think like 15vac yellow to ground and and like one volt less than double yellow to yellow . I will seee if I can find the post .
John
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Post by dertbikdennis on Apr 16, 2012 18:00:31 GMT -6
When I ohm checked the "unplugged stator today the meter on 200 setting I had this
1.0 .8 .8 This was measured between the yellows
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 16, 2012 18:48:56 GMT -6
run the scooter with the yellows unpluged and take acv readings . The resistance readings look decent , wail let me go measure one .
John
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Post by dertbikdennis on Apr 16, 2012 19:17:00 GMT -6
Ok just came back from the shop and did these tests.... with the yellow wire plug from r/r "unplugged" I had these readings at idle ac volts 2.1 3.1 3.8 this was ground to yellow on each
Then I did the black wire test... black wire from r/r unplugged from ign switched power 12.87v dc at battery.... idle when I touched black wire to ground the voltage did not change .....wait a min...I believe I still had yellow wires disconnected....Let me try that again in the morning sorry
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Post by justbuggin2 on Apr 16, 2012 21:22:17 GMT -6
did you measure from the yellows to ground you should not get any continuity
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Post by dertbikdennis on Apr 17, 2012 4:57:51 GMT -6
ohm checked to ground and had no continuity
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Post by JR on Apr 17, 2012 5:39:50 GMT -6
Your yellow wire test was wrong. You've got to test from yellow to yellow with it running. You should have about the same voltage between each and every one. Should be 60Vac or higher at 4k RPM. Test each wire 1 to 2, 2 to 3 and 1 to 3.
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Post by dertbikdennis on Apr 18, 2012 18:38:46 GMT -6
I did the test again and with the stator unpluged from the scooter wiring I tested just between the yellows...at a rev'd rpm I can reach like 15.2 from 2 wires and high 13 from the third
my meter was on 200ac scale
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 18, 2012 19:36:14 GMT -6
did you change the flywheel it sounds low .
John
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Post by dertbikdennis on Apr 18, 2012 20:08:53 GMT -6
yeah its new and bouhjt the stator (11 pole ) and flywheel from the same vendor
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 18, 2012 20:22:33 GMT -6
I would have to test mine and get readings , If rem ember correctly that stator from yellow to ground should get a 15vac at idel and reved like 17vac , then yellow to yellow should get close to 30vac reved all three yellow wires should be equal .
I just don't remember .
John
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2012 20:26:54 GMT -6
I think you're right John, I mentione 60Vac but now that I think about it thats with a 18 pole stator, let me see if I can find it.
JR
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2012 20:36:56 GMT -6
11-Pole stator voltages from stator harness at idle. With all wiring correctly installed attach ground lead of multimeter to the green wire coming from the stator and the positive meter lead to each yellow leads from the stator. Two of the leads should read a minimum of 14vAC One lead should read a minimum of 7vAC.
Found it. JR
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