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Post by paulpaul on Sept 11, 2011 15:05:41 GMT -6
Those pictures are the best i have see of the tragedy !! I also was home. It's so tragic what man will do to man. Thanks JR
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 6, 2011 17:48:56 GMT -6
That is what i did for my wife. I bought one on eBay. Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 6, 2011 9:04:23 GMT -6
I did what i was told. I changed the connector on the 3 yellow wires from the rectifier. It's fixed. I guess it was robbing power from the system and not getting a good spark and weaken the power. She will go to 7000 rpm now. Thanks Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 6, 2011 8:58:40 GMT -6
Thanks Cruiser!! I can not believe that was it,but it was. I had tightened them up before and there was no difference . I hated to cut the wires and put new connectors on them. I did and now those wires that were getting hot are not .There is a little warmth near the rectifier on the yellow wires but not much. I added a small CPU 12 volt fan on the rectifier. It is running cool now. Sorry for not listening ! I should have known better. Thank you again. Pw
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 5, 2011 17:56:53 GMT -6
Thanks for getting back to me. I have 6 yellow wires. 3 come from the stater they should be ac. The 3 that come out of the rectifier i thought should be dc? Now to answer your question. I'm going to pull the front plastics tomorrow and track down the 6 yellows with an ohms meter. Find out where they go and look for a short or something pulling to many amps. I put a new regulator on it today . If you check at the battery you are charging correct. Their is no ac ripple at the battery. It's dark here now . I'm going to get back on it tomorrow. Whats really bugging me is i cant find a diagram that show's all 6 yellows. I will get back tomorrow. Looks like this one is going to be fun. I have read several articles where this plug with the 3 yellow wires is burned completely up. But not any of them let me know at the end What the repair was. Thanks Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 5, 2011 15:04:45 GMT -6
I have a 250b Yamaha clone. There are three yellow that come out of the rectifier go to a plug that has wires that go to the front of the scooter. Those 3 wires are very hot. They will sooner or later burn up. There are 4 wires that come from the stater. 3 are yellow one is blue. They are not hot. I have checked the plugs to make sure their tight. So a loose connection is not the problem. I believe i have a short some where up front where the yellow wires are going. all the diagrams i have found do not show where the yellow wires from the rectifier are going. The two sets of 3 yellow wires from the back ,the ones going to the rectifier and the ones that go to the stater have the same style plug. In other words you can plug either in to the other. When you change them you get the same results. The same 3 yellow wires get hot. I have been having a problem of no power . The scooter was running 70 to 75 then dropped back to 45mph and would run no faster. I believe this problem i found with the rectifiers getting hot is causing this problem. I thank the 12 volts is being robbed by the short. Anyone had this problem or have a good wiring diagram that shows all 6 yellow wires and where the should go? Thanks Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 5, 2011 12:50:56 GMT -6
HI! Damin 69 !! Just for a chance check the plug that the three yellow wires coming Of the rectifier and see if after the motor has run for about 5mins if the yellow wires are hot. I had the same problem you do and i am wondering if you wires are hot like mine . I notice my scooter idles up and runs perfect when i unplug the plug with 3 yellow wires. I must have a short where those 3 wires go. I'm going to eliminate them i at a time. The 3 yellow wires go to the front of bike.One is the charging wire. They are coming from rectifier to the front. I', m going to look for a diagram and see where each wire goes. Thanks Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 5, 2011 11:43:11 GMT -6
If you find a crack on the intake manifold instead of replacing it go to the nearest place like ( Yamaha dealer) and buy grey yamabond gasket maker . Put that on it it will set up like rubber and last a life time. It is one of the best gasket makers out their. Someone may know another name for the same thing.
Now to my trouble on no power. I was checking all plug and tightening them. Noticed that the 3 yellow wires coming out of my rectifier were really hot. I checked for loose connections at the plug. These 3 wires go to the same plug. They leave there and go to the stater. All three wires a hot. Is this normal. I thought i might have a rectifier going bad. I did a meter check at the battery a little over 13volt dc I revved up raised to 14volt dc. I have had rectifiers start to go bad an still read right on dc scale but when you switch your meter to ac the rectifier is starting to go bad an has ac voltage going out to your system. At first you want know it with out checking . The you will start having things happen. It will ruin your battery and almost any dc unit on the scooter. You should not have over .002 ac volts when you read ac on the dc system. Your stater is putting ac volts out, the rectifier converts that to dc volts . I hope this helps anyone having electrical problems that are weird. By the way mine was OK. But the three yellow wires are to hot. Thanks for any help Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 5, 2011 10:30:40 GMT -6
If that is the original radio with mp3. There is a fuse on the red (12 volt wire) going to the radio . It is a fuse holder that screws to gather with the old style fuse in it. I doubt that is whats wrong with it. They are cheap and don't work long . If you know a radio guy that will work on it it is pretty simple. Paul O by the way the red wire and all wiring for the radio are inside the fairing near the radio!!
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 4, 2011 12:33:45 GMT -6
My 250 is running better. I can get the rpm now. The vacuum hose that comes from the vacuum canister to the air box had cracks in it . I cleaned the breather filter and put filter oil back one it. Also the large pipe that hooks to the carb and is molded to air box and is sealed had cracks in it .I sealed with Yamabond grey. I believe i have mine repaired. I will have it back to gather this week some time and we will see for sure .Thanks everyone .Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 3, 2011 13:44:05 GMT -6
Thanks JR!! I thank you for your time and trouble. Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 3, 2011 11:54:59 GMT -6
OK got the bike back together enough to crank it. It ran OK till choke went off . Then i had to set the idle and it seem to be idling a little rough. I thought it might have a vacuum leak so i sprayed ever thing with water. No change. When i revved the motor up it didn't want to go up to rpm. It would stumble at about 45 hundred rpm. I had changed antifreeze and i noticed the gauge was running to hot. revved motor it went up to 6000 fast. I cut it off and let it cool. Checked coolant level and add some. I cranked it up ran like a dream all of a sudden after i revved it to 6000 it would not idle again had to move idle screw for a smooth 1500 idle. Cut it off let it set ,cranked ran perfect. Still to hot. How do you know when you have all the air out of the cooling system? And what is the best way to get the air out. Also i noticed that when i revved the motor up the temperature gauge would fall and when let off the gas go back up. Any ideas? At least it will go up to rpm up some times!! Thanks in advance Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 3, 2011 2:42:16 GMT -6
I was just looking at his plug. Why does the carbon go so far up the treads on the plug. That would mean the plug treads are going past the treads in the heads . Is he running to lone of a reach plug in that motor? Thanks Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 3, 2011 2:35:10 GMT -6
I have 14gm doc slider sliders coming a new spark plug and a new fuel filter. I decided to put new gas an vacuum lines on it. Looking at his plug ,i thought it looked close to perfect am i wrong. My plug looked about the same. I almost forgot I'm putting a new gates belt on it. Thank you JR I will check my compression. I really don't believe that there is a problem there. I can't wait to get it back together . I may be wrong but i think the valves loosened up. They we real loose. I will post what i find if anything . Jr That is a good idea . I may do my manifold the same way. If i ever take the head i will port and polish the intake an the exhaust. That will help it breath better . Thanks again Paul
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Post by paulpaul on Sept 2, 2011 17:10:03 GMT -6
I'm a new member. I can send a little help by way of pay pal just let me know where to send it . I have used pay pal to pay for thing i have bought , but never to just send to someone . I'm sure i can figure it out. If not i can send it to him by mail. It's is better to give than receive.God bless Paul
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