not turning over By tavcor (Read 539 times)

[tavcor]

hi guys i've got a jonway master 2 the 244 vertical engine. replaced the head and cylinder gaskets did the TDC and the valves but if i hit the start button the selonoid just click.Check switch selonoid, starter and battery all good. Ive research the problem and some guys say if the valves are to tight the engine wont turn over. i hope i've given enough info about what type of scoot it is. any help would be highly appreciated.

[insanetexan]

I just finished up a problem of the same sort with a linhai engine and the culprit was the ground wire from the frame to the motor. Check that out and see if that is the problem.

[alleyoop]

If you touch both terminals on the SOLENOID does it spin your starter?
Alleyoop

[tavcor]

No not turning just sparks

[ellpee]

In another thread here recently the GROUND connection from the starter motor to the frame, or maybe engine, was bad. Might check that if you haven't already.

[alleyoop]

Since this is a 244cc HELIX the valve adjustments are on the outside can you take a picture of the valve adjusters?

Also let me ask this can you turn the motor over by HAND with a wrench on the VARIATOR, turning it COUNTER CLOCKWISE through the compression stroke and the intake strok in other words several turns of the variator?
Alleyoop

[tavcor]

Yes it does turn by hand. I took the starter off to bench test starter is good. Check the ground(good). Vavle adjustent is outside.

[alleyoop]

May 7, 2014 23:37:27 GMT -6 tavcor said:

Yes it does turn by hand. I took the starter off to bench test starter is good. Check the ground(good). Vavle adjustent is outside.

I know the valve adjustments are on the outside I want to see where you have them set. Take a picture of them ALSO take a picture of your Solenod. Are you sure you have the Solenoid wired correctly?
alleyoop

[tavcor]

How do I load a photo? Now my selonoid is completely dead no spark no click

[alleyoop]

Use this Host to load up pics.
1. Click on this link:
tinypic.com/index.php

2. Click on Browse, that will link to your computer.
3. Find what you want to load.
3. Click on the name of the picture
4. Click on OPEN
5. Click on UPLOAD
6. Click on the LINK that starts with IMG.
7. RIGHT CLICK and CLICK on COPY
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Alleyoop

[tavcor]

hi Allyoop my selonoid was fried the bike shop had to order one so they lend me a second hand one. i've it in starter only spin when outside. the engine felt stiff when turning over by hand so i've put teaspoon of oil in plug hole better after that. took the crank case of and i suspect the gear between starter Bendix end flywheel was misaligned. will put everything back tomorrow and see if the engine will turn over. i think it should be easier if i leave the starter in its place aligned the gear on bendix and flywheel then put the crank case on because if i fit the starter afterwards it looks like i push the gear out of position. hopefully will have some success tomorrow

[alleyoop]

The Idler Gear which you are calling the BENDIX is what engages the CLUTCH STARTER and which the STARTER TURNS. The shaft on that fits into a hole in the INSIDE OF THE COVER you take off so it is aligned straight and holds it in.
Alleyoop

[tavcor]

Tried all sort of ways fitting the crankcase as soon as if tighten it with wrench it. Will take everything of again with starter motor and start from beginning.and with all the removing and fitting of crankcase I pinched the two wires going to cdi more repairs for me.

[tavcor]

Hi guys any idea's scooter start first time as soon as I press start button when crankcase is hand tight but as soon when I tighten with wrence the starter or idler pully wont move tried every way of fitting the starter or crankcase cover everything line up. When crankcase cover tight and starter out I try to move idler pully by hand by sticking my finger in starter hole but it wont turn a bit looks like its jammed between crankcase and cover. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong