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Post by 1pkryan on Apr 15, 2015 4:00:42 GMT -6
Yea it's definitely a ground problem.
If i ground the carburetor using the main frame ground it works as it should and i have it revving etc works perfect.. Problem is i shouldn't have to do this obviously, so what is the problem? Looking at the diagram, "Carburetor Heater" which is the automatic choke should be grounded, would that ground the carburetor? maybe a problem in that area, there is 0.05 resistance from ground to carburetor, which i think should read 0... i get 0 on both wires going to automatic choke, which i assume it is grounded so dunno lol.. Sorry for all the questions JR, appreciate all the help. =)
there is 0.05 resistance from ground to cylinder head as well. Not sure which 1 is engine ground, is it the 1 that is attached to the stator then attached to the frame? or do i attach it directly to the engine?
Also according to the diagram the stator motor is grounded as well.
Don't think there is a problem with the wiring harness personally, i'll keep trying things till i hear back from you. Hopefully i solve it before you reply.
EDIT: I attached it to 1 of the bolts holding down the oil pump cover and it seems to work fine, just want confirmation really that it's okay to do so. Thanks.
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Post by 1pkryan on Apr 14, 2015 1:11:31 GMT -6
Yea sorry it's a little confusing and makes no sense..
I've removed the right hand side throttle assembly and switches from frame, what was happening was it was touching a unpainted surface on the handle bar and causing sparks with the throttle cable. Problem then occurred that i couldn't get a spark without the throttle cable touching the frame,
so i hooked up a wire 1 end attached to end of throttle cable other attached to my frame for testing purposes. I then took readings with the multi-meter with the wire attached to the frame and not to look for differences, which came back to the stator reading 1 when wire was not connected and 0.00 when wire was connected.
With R/R unplugged and testing the white wire from from the R/R end with stator block connector plugged back in with wire from throttle not attached to frame i get 0.05 with wire attached to frame i get 0.00
Seems the carburetor is live dunno if meant to be, not sure what going on to be honest, if i take out throttle cable from carburetor end then i get no spark either way obvious because it's not connected to owt at the other end.
Also for the record, i tried a different regulator and CDI unit which i brought for the bike ages ago in case something had blown but still had same problem.
Hope all this makes sense as i don't know how else to explain it. Thanks.
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Post by 1pkryan on Apr 12, 2015 6:51:31 GMT -6
Oh right thanks.
Okay, seems i only get a spark if i run a wire from throttle cable to frame when right switch assembly is removed from the bike.. If i remove wire i cannot get a spark.
EDIT: Seems to be a problem with the stator... Black probe on negative terminal and if i unplug the stator connector block and put red probe on white wire it stays on 1 but if i put cable running from throttle to frame i get 0.00.
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Post by 1pkryan on Apr 10, 2015 0:44:51 GMT -6
Thanks JR.
I have a B/W going to ignition and CDI like the diagram but i don't see the main ground with the the ring any ideas where this would be? Assuming mine is the same. Only thing i have seen to do with ground and have rings are both green 1 connects to frame i think from stator pulse and other is connected to a resistor near battery which is inside the harness.
Oh forgot to mention in my previous post there was like a black wire which never beeped but did have a reading same for a pink or beige wire. Any ideas on this?
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Post by 1pkryan on Apr 9, 2015 10:49:43 GMT -6
No problem JR, your welcome. Unfortunately i don't, Found that diagram by chance browsing all sorts of crap on google images lol... If i find a complete manual i will post it here for you though.
Okay i have received my multi-meter. Not 100% sure what next step to take to be honest. It has a beep feature on this 1 so do i put black probe on frame then touch end of each wires on wire harness and if it beeps say when red probe touches green wire that is good because it's ground, but if it beeps on blue(for example) that is bad etc?
Looking at diagram, stater motor is grounded, So if black probe is on frame and i touch white and red wire with red probe and it beeps that is good?
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Post by 1pkryan on Apr 1, 2015 10:55:11 GMT -6
Will do JR, thanks. unfortunately, my multi-meter has broken somehow not showing anything on LCD display apart from a dot... Ordered 1 from ebay said will be here by the 9th so bare with me please.. Sorry.
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Post by 1pkryan on Mar 31, 2015 14:16:09 GMT -6
Thanks JR, i will take the clutch pads apart and get to work with the multi-meter tomorrow. Would this cause no revs / low revs no power though?
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Post by 1pkryan on Mar 31, 2015 10:41:32 GMT -6
It seems to be sparking from throttle cable to frame or frame to throttle cable, could this be cutting rev power? Any ideas what would cause this seems bad grounds? shorting out etc... but stator is grounded to frame and i think there is a ground going to a resistor near battery.
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Post by 1pkryan on Mar 30, 2015 3:55:30 GMT -6
Sorry forgot to mention, i opened up the CVT before i posted belt was fine, clutch looked like it had colored somehow(OIL?) maybe. Was multicolored like you get with exhaust cans lol... Don't think that matters though, clutch does engage the back wheel when moving with my hand, which suggests it's okay i think? I get a bright blue spark when grounded to engine, just wasn't sure if it should make noises when away from metal contact. It's ticking over fine, just when you rev it nothing happens apart from hearing idles go up / revs up. Took spark plug out seems quite oiled up. Before all this happened it was fine, i took throttle off to change the tube, it opens and snaps back shut so i think i put it back okay but probably worth a mention. When i do rev it, it does seem to be low rpms. EDIT: There does seem like a-bit of play on the flywheel, which indicates a sheared woodruff key and throwing the timing off, does this seem a plausible? Will have to wait till i can get it off though as i lent puller to a mate...
Took flywheel off, checked the woodruff key and it's fine so ignore above. [Wiring Diagram]:  |
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Post by 1pkryan on Mar 29, 2015 8:32:33 GMT -6
Okay, i did have it all running nicely but now it's like it wants to go but it don't move the wheel. Wheel is not locked can spin if freely with my hand. Iv'e cleaned the carburetor out 2 times all passages and jets are clear so wasn't sure if my question below is connected and shorting something out or if it's normal. Also quick question about spark plug boot, if i kick bike it makes a spark like noise without the spark of course is this normal or should it only make noise with spark when i hold it to cylinder head? Also Sparks when say 1 inch away from where the exhaust connects to. Thanks for the all help so far. [OFF TOPIC]: jrDid you find an english wiring diagram of that dutch diagram? Think i have found a english 1. Will upload if you haven't got/found 1. |
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Post by 1pkryan on Feb 19, 2015 4:21:34 GMT -6
Thanks JR.
I did try it with the air filter off at first, and then tried it with it on and it seemed harder to start with it on, and didn't get any easier with me me adjusting the air/fuel screw.
Should i be testing the auto choke make sure it is fully operational? would this even cause a problem like this, just guessing.
I'll take a look at them links you provided and get back to you, thanks.
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Post by 1pkryan on Feb 18, 2015 10:34:38 GMT -6
Thanks JR.
Seem to have another problem... ( 1 after another.. ) When i rev the bike it will die with a burr like noise as if it's starving of fuel unless i stop revving then the bike will tick over fine again..
Any advice on this issue?
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Post by 1pkryan on Feb 17, 2015 12:21:47 GMT -6
Just got my parts this week and fixed it today, seems to tick over and not revving it's self . Anyone know the correct screw settings for the carburetor?
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Post by 1pkryan on Dec 25, 2014 17:25:12 GMT -6
Thanks, will get all these little bits sorted out, then get back to you with the results.
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Post by 1pkryan on Dec 25, 2014 3:22:45 GMT -6
Thanks JR.
Will take a look at it in a few day's and let you know the outcome.
EDIT: Forgot to mention when disassembling bits, i noticed there was no gasket for the exhaust and inlet. Would these cause problems as well?
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