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Post by amac1680 on Apr 24, 2014 13:37:52 GMT -6
When I got here 15 years ago my endorsement transferred with the DL.
I'm sorry I got so harsh in my last post but I decided to look close at what the scoots around here were doing at say rush hour. I left my last post as it was because if I make an azz of myself I don't go back and remove it.
In the beginning of the thread I had little issue with a 50. Matter of fact I thought the issue here was "fast 50s". I was terribly wrong. In a 8 mile stretch I saw 2 small scoots crawling up a bridge and one after clogging the right lane of a two lane 45 mph road. Eight miles.
So now I think short of a college campus I'm no longer a fan. Just my .02
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Post by amac1680 on Apr 23, 2014 17:57:49 GMT -6
That's good to hear Scooden. So do you have a motorcycle license? If not, isn't there a choice to go take a dmv test & get one? _ Good question. The poster talks about all the big bikes he rode in CA. Must have been braking the law there or he would have an endorsement in FL. In Florida you must take the course no way around it. In time the 50cc law will change and it will help keep those that can't pass the test off the road. In the meantime those without an endorsement will be forced to ride their weedwackers on roads that they have no business being on. |
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Post by amac1680 on Apr 20, 2014 16:09:30 GMT -6
Ill never understand the argument that one can't afford to get a MC endorsement and insurance but can somehow justify dumping money into rollers, gears, exhaust etal on what will always be an underpowered scooter.
Sorry but it defies logic registration and insurance is cheap.
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Post by amac1680 on Apr 13, 2014 17:35:45 GMT -6
thing is in this part of florida I also see a lot of FAST 50s........
I mean real fast !
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Post by amac1680 on Apr 12, 2014 16:53:03 GMT -6
I ride a Segway every day but how does that tie into 50cc scoots ? The problem in Florida with the 50s is enforcement. Almost everyday I see a situation where a cop sees a 50 on a 45 mph road and looks the other way. Happens all the time. Did you just start riding your Segway? I can tell you that when I got my first one it was not second nature. Segway, the company is very careful to give you great instruction when you buy on new. When I bought the first one at the dealer in Orlando I had to take a class that was about 2.5 hours long to get instruction on safety and how to respond in different situations. They dont even do that with a 50cc scooter. Now there is the tie in. If you buy a bigger scooter you have to take a class that teaches you safety and how to respond in different situations. I started riding a Segway in 2003 after a spinal cord injury. I use it as a mobility device. To be clear about the Segway "boot camp" back in 2003-2004, it was short lived. After the initial product release Segways were sold thru...Brookstone. So much for the training. After the dealer network was put together training became less important than the money. I am intimate with the progression of deans invention. BTW Segway was not about to sell me a unit based on my injury so I sent a friend to boot camp for me. Always a method of getting around the rules. Back to scoots. I see guys on croth rockets with MC endorsements that ride like fools. It's not the size of the machine or the education it's a mindset. Can't legislate stupidity. Check out what happens when a invention is put to its highest use. We started this charity after we saw what the machine did for us. |
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Post by amac1680 on Apr 12, 2014 4:39:31 GMT -6
I see a lot of your points, agree with most but as I said there are circumstances where there are applications for this scooter. To take a training course to ride any two wheeled vehicle IMO is a good thing. I also don't agree with people who can't follow the law getting a free ride on a 50cc scooter with a few exceptions and that exception is the person pays his debt to society, learns their lesson, and becomes a responsible law abiding rider/driver again. People do that sometimes and if they are as we say walking the chalk line, have a job to support themselves and paying that debt then they should get and IMO deserve a second chance. Should they continue to disobey the law then I'm in favor of putting those kind of people on foot. I do believe that in a lot of cases the 50cc scooter can be dangerous but like anything one can ride responsibly and help remove some of the danger. To me you seem to have as we say a ax to grind when it comes to the 50cc scooter and seem to think it represents irresponsible people and IMO the 50cc scooter gets a bad label on that. JR I see your point and I agree. I know that in Europe, while I was there, people drove these little scoots very reasonably. They seemed to be watching out for them selves. Not relying on others to watch out for them. That is guess would be my 'ax to grind' as you say. It is not the 50 that I have a problem with it is the manor in which I see them driven on a daily basis. At least here in Florida, as compared to many European countries I have seen them driven in. I have not traveled the states much since I moved back here 7 years ago so I cannot say anything about other areas. But central Florida, from St Pete to Daytona and Sebring to Dade City I travel a lot. In all this area a cautious 50cc driver has been few and far between. I am sure they exist more than I see. I dont want these little scoots gone by any stretch. I just think that for their safety and mine and everyone else they should be more educated about what they are doing. Have you ever ridden a Segway?I ride a Segway every day but how does that tie into 50cc scoots ? The problem in Florida with the 50s is enforcement. Almost everyday I see a situation where a cop sees a 50 on a 45 mph road and looks the other way. Happens all the time. |
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Post by amac1680 on Mar 19, 2014 5:02:57 GMT -6
I guess my question is why?
More displacement can be had for a few more bucks.
The way I see it is more cc or lighten the load.........
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Post by amac1680 on Feb 25, 2014 5:18:08 GMT -6
Always hear good things about Valley!
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Post by amac1680 on Jan 16, 2014 5:09:21 GMT -6
You can remove the seat and take it to an auto or boat upholster to recover.
Try auto first as marine people can be pricy.
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Post by amac1680 on Dec 26, 2013 6:49:46 GMT -6
Its easy to over fill that scoot. There is a weep hole at the top of the fill pipe. Fill up slowly and stop as soon as any gas flows from that hole.
But I don't think that's the issue here.
I had a vacume problem very early on. The scooter fires right up cold but run it a while then shut it down for a short time and it was hard to start. It was one of the vacume lines. Once fixed never another problem. That's the first place I'd look.
I can't tell you what line it was, my dealer does the wrenching in mine.
I would also check the SYM forums for input.
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Post by amac1680 on Dec 26, 2013 6:42:35 GMT -6
Very nice!
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Post by amac1680 on Dec 25, 2013 5:45:23 GMT -6
I use AMSOIL Quickshot at the moment but have used Startron, Seafoam etc over the years.
Your going to get a bunch on different answers to what additive is the best. They have all worked fine for me.
Not sure what you mean by "sounds bad" ?
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Post by amac1680 on Dec 21, 2013 6:41:19 GMT -6
Hey BTW the SYM Wolf is truly a great little motorcycle! I have a friend that has one and had the opportunity to ride. If I could get my leg over it consistently I buy one tomorrow ! It really is very good-looking, although I may be biased because I enjoy the bikes of my day.
That said it's hard to get a discount on them. Very few leftovers kicking around and they are in demand. But there is really nothing else to compare it to. It really doesn't fit with the PCX in the RV 200.
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Post by amac1680 on Dec 21, 2013 6:33:16 GMT -6
I also took a hard look at the PCX150. That is really a great scooter, the ergonomics were just not going to work for me. Honda obviously has a huge dealer network here in the US.
I am very fortunate to have quality scooter dealer support close by for most Taiwanese brands. SYM is building their dealer network rapidly. But there are parts of the country where there is a void.
It seems to be pretty common practice for SYM and Kymco dealers to tack on about $200 in freight charges. They are more apt to give out the door price that truly holds up at closing. They also discount their leftovers deeper into Japanese brands. When I was shopping leftovers Honda was really offering nothing. I bought the RV 200 for a hair under 3600.00 out to door. The PCX was a little over 4100.00.
As far as quality of the build I really couldn't find much difference between the Hondas and the SYM. Everything fit well , motors ran well none of them rattled. Fit and finish was great on both.
Again either way I don't see how you could go wrong. It's really a matter of what style scooter you're looking for. For me to step through was of the essence for others that's not an issue.
Be Big,
AMAC
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Post by amac1680 on Dec 21, 2013 4:32:23 GMT -6
The first thing I would do is to decide whether I wanted a motorcycle or scooter. The Wolf classic is a very cool little motorcycle, and would be on my short list if it was a small motorcycle I was looking for. I was moving from a 16 inch wheel scooter. I have always liked the big wheel scooters and the HD 200 is the absolute best scooter in its class. Smooth and stable and an excellent reliability record. After having the opportunity to extensively ride both HD 200 and RV 200 I purchased the RV. My main purpose for choosing the RV 200 was utility. The ability to carry lots of stuff is a huge factor for me. I've never been a big fan of the top box so the ability to pack a large quantity under the seat makes the top box unneeded for my daily purposes. Be aware that SYM does not offer a rack so if you chooses to use a top box an aftermarket rack will need to be fitted.  Contents from under seat .  Full face helmet Rain Jacket and Pants Long sleeve tee HiVis Safety vest Gloves and do rag Small tool kit Small backpack Cane Also playing into the utility is the larger foot area on the RV as opposed to the HD. You can put your feet in a bunch of different positions and carry a lot of cargo. A case or two of beer is no problem. Another reason why I like the RV is the seat height. Although the published height is 32.5 inches that seems to be measured at the high point in the front of the seat. With my 135 pound body on its more like 30 inches. I know because I can make flat-footed landings, another reason I was moving to a smaller wheeled scoot. I did have a concern how the smaller wheels would handle at speed. That HD 200 is very solid at 70 miles. Top end is 75.2 GPS . As it turns out SYM seemed to get it right. At 65 to 70 miles an hour I ride feet forward and it is if the scooter is on tracks. It has very good balance both at highway speed and around town. I have taken a couple of mid range trips, 600 miles , with the "full-dress" crowd I used to ride with and she did just fine. Never did I feel like I was the "scooter" in the group. I have a 1500 mile trip planed for April. With saddlebags and a Bikers-friend roll bag I can pack for two weeks and the bags goes on or off in less than five mins.   The kick-starter works fine and the windscreen will fit under most covers made for mid size scooters. It's only about 50lbs heavier then the HD and with the smaller wheels and low center of gravity its easy to "flick around". After a spinal cord injury I'm a incomplete paraplegic ,my legs are compromised and still have no problem with this bike. I have nothing but praise for SYM. Both my RV200 and Cali Classic provide solid reliable rides at price that is hard to beat. I can't see you going wrong with any of the SYMs your considering. Enjoy your search! Be Big, AMAC |
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