Headlights and tailights not working By tscoot2 (Read 868 times)

[tscoot2]

I know that the tail & head lights won't work unless the motor is running and I'm thinking what ever senses that the motor is running to tell the lights it's ok to come on is the problem. Neither the low or high beams come on and no tail lights. However, the high beams come on with the flasher switch and all directional and brake lights work fine with or without the motor running. All bulbs are good and I checked for loose plug connections in the wiring harness and all check out fine. What is it that supplies the power for the head lights only when the motor is running. Is it the regulator/rectifier and if so could that be the problem? My scoot is a 2007 Lance Grand Touring P-250 made by BENZHOU,which is essentially the same as a Roketa MC-54B-250 with the Linhai motor.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

[JR]

tscoot2

When you say flasher switch are you talking about the little switch on the left hand switch assembly that is spring loaded and turns off when released? If so this is called by the Chinese as a passing switch that when pressed gives 12Vdc from the battery to make the high beams only get brighter. The idea is to make the vehicle in front of you notice the brighter light so they see you are coming around them.

Since you have said you have checked the bulbs and connections we now have got to start looking for voltage along with any possible bad ground issues. Question did this happen when you were riding down the road all of a sudden or did you just start it up and find it that way? Reason I ask is a bad ground or still even a bad connection is the number one reason if it just did this all of a sudden riding down the road.

So let's do this I need you to start the scooter and take a volt meter and take a voltage reading on the battery with the scooter idling. Then take a reading with it revved up to say 5k rpm or so. Why do this? This tells me if the stator and R/R are good provided there are no bad connections here. If you tell me I've got good voltage at idle and even better with it revved up then we know that we do indeed have a gremlin other than a bad stator or R/R.


If this is the linhai then you should not have a fuse box and the head/tail light circuit along with the instrument panel lights are on the same circuit.

Get the battery readings and get back to me and we'll go from there.

JR

[jclscooter]

Hello I am new  here but have this exact problem you are describing in your post. I had everything working on my  08' MP 250A JCL made in China scooter. My headlights and taillights just quit but I have signals and brake lights and passing  switch (Hi beams) when held. Fuse is good at battery but yet to check the fuse under seat ( I forgot about It).The headlight switch does nothing when flipping it forward and backward on left handlebar. There is a  plastic switch on right handle bar down below the Kill switch and  to the left of the start button which moves side to side but it had a piece break that went to a small screw and had no wires to it. Is it a light switch? I may be able to post a pics or two later in the week. Any helps would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if my description is confusing.

[jclscooter]

Hello JR
I think I have same problem?

[jclscooter]

Very much appreciate yr help . sorry I am having trouble posting my questions. How do u post message after typing???

[jclscooter]

AAhhh stupid I figured it out.LOL

[gorj]

Your head light and tail light come on when you turn on the ignition switch even if you do not start the engine. I would suspect the ignition switch, or wiring from the switch to the lighting. Good luck.

[ellpee]

If this is the Linhai horizontal engine I know zip, but if it's the Honda clone vertical engine .... I had a 2011 Roketa, and it had a fusebox under the seat, beneath a cover that also hides the battery. ONE of those fuses received its voltage from the R/R, not the battery, and fed it to the headlights and taillights. That was why they only worked when the engine was running. So if by chance your scoot has a fuse box, you might get it fixed by just checking that fuse, and spending a quarter to replace it if it's bad. (Could be it's only loose ....)

[jclscooter]

Ok , there is only a 15 amp fuse next to battery and then one at the starter relay which was a 10 amp fuse and I change it to a 20 amp fuse. still no good results it is still the same problem.. After I left it sitting for a couple hours & went back put key in turned it on now I have no power to instrument panel or start button switch, signals , horn, brake lights, nothing .... what the Fudge... The battery is charged and power at relay but none anywhere else..so now I have to wait 2 weeks for a day off bc someone went on vacation ....I will check wiring on R/R again thanks for all your help everyone . I will be back in a couple weeks when I have a chance to work on it again.

[mspctech2000]

Hi,
Did anyone ever get this resolved? I have the same problem on a 2012 TBX 260? They don’t make the scoot anymore, so the new people at BMS don’t have much knowledge with this scoot. I’m desperate to find a solution. I'd appreciate any help that you guys can offer.

Thanks,

Pam