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Post by JR on Sept 5, 2015 18:59:10 GMT -6
Have you got the diode hooked up correctly? If it's backwards then it'll act as you describe. You can test it by hooking up 12Vdc on one wire and see if it passes and then the other wire to see if it doesn't?
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Post by bhinch on Sept 5, 2015 19:58:00 GMT -6
I replaced the diode with a like item.. maybe.. and it will not hookup backwards. I thought the same thing and will make a jumper set and see if you are correct. The item that I purchased looks like the one I took off, but it could be totally different on the inside. I really appreciate your help, it not normal for my scoot to have a problem. I joined the original Scootdawg in 2008. So my scoot has been a real trooper. Thanks again....
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Post by bhinch on Sept 5, 2015 20:11:26 GMT -6
When I jumper the blocking diode and start the scoot everything works as advertised. So you may be right...I ordered one of the diodes you gave me on a link. It has not made the trip yet, so maybe it will work. It will not plug in, but I can make a jumper wire set to use and test the system.
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Post by bhinch on Sept 5, 2015 20:13:46 GMT -6
The plug in for the diode has a white and red wire.
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Post by ellpee on Sept 6, 2015 7:47:28 GMT -6
I'm frankly totally lost with your description of jumpering things related to the diode, guess I just think in different terminology, so am gonna sit back and hope JR or somebody will solve it for you.
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Post by bhinch on Sept 6, 2015 8:14:29 GMT -6
Thanks for the reply....If I jumper the female connector on the harnessthat connects to the blocking diode, I have the scooter back to normal, except the tail light is on, with the key off not running. When the scoot is running in this mode, everything works as advertised. Turn the scoot off the tail light stays on. I did what JR said to do and reverse the plug in on the diode. It changed nothing. The only way to use the scoot is to place a mini toggle switch on the diode connector and manually turn the R/R on and off. I have another blocking diode in the mail and will see if that works. My blocking diode is a 4 female pins male and it will only go on one way. It uses the red and white wire on the bottom of the connector and two on top are not used. I have 2 R/R's and they both act the same way with the blocking diode installed or disconnected. I went a removed the HID's headlights from the mix and it changed nothing. Not sure what is going on...I know JR will come through. Thanks everyone for your help.
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Post by JR on Sept 6, 2015 9:50:11 GMT -6
bhinch I remember you putting in the HID lights, now with the blocking diode jumped you are now sending power even with the key off to the tail lights, that's what the blocking diode does, let's charging voltage from the R/R go to the battery one way and blocks the voltage from the battery from going back to the R/R with the key off. Since your tail lights run off the output of the R/R with it jumped you are sending battery voltage all the time to the tail lights. If your head lights were still OEM they would also be on with the key off. I posted a picture of the blocking diode and it's 2 wire ONLY. The thing you bought is a 4 pin regulator and it will not work. It is not a diode I don't care what they call it. i60.tinypic.com/29zsi1x.jpgNow if you don't want to use a blocking diode I can tell you how to use a simple 12 volt relay that you can buy at a local auto parts store instead of the toggle switch you suggested which will work but has to be manually turned on and off. JR
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Post by bhinch on Sept 6, 2015 10:46:48 GMT -6
That sounds good to me... I pulled off from the scooter the 4 pin (blocking diode) regulator that is original for the scoot. Was trying to replace it with the same item. I guess it did not work. I have the pdf you placed on the replacing the diode with a relay using a 4 prong relay. Will wait till the other diode I ordered comes in and try it. Then I will try the relay route. Thanks again....
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Post by JR on Sept 6, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -6
Simple question? Does the unit you have plugged into the two wire plug have 2 or four spades/pins?
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Post by bhinch on Sept 6, 2015 12:38:09 GMT -6
2 spades
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Post by bhinch on Sept 6, 2015 12:38:57 GMT -6
sorry 4 spades
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Post by bhinch on Sept 6, 2015 12:43:14 GMT -6
the new unit looks identical to the old unit...4 spades....2 lower used...plugs in only one way..
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Post by bhinch on Sept 6, 2015 12:56:36 GMT -6
Not sure why my scoot has this unit, have not seen this on any other scoot. Roketa shows no such animal or I would order the correct one from them. My build date is July 2008. I got the scoot in August 2008.
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Post by JR on Sept 6, 2015 14:59:35 GMT -6
Have never see a 4 spaded diode? Very weird, mine has only 2 spades to match the plug, I think yours for some reason is a factory defect? Mine is also a 08 Roketa 250B.
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