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Post by alleyoop on Jun 13, 2014 14:46:20 GMT -6
I have to say that is a mystery to me and here is the reason I say this. You said you where having problems the motor was not starting THAT has NOTHING TO DO with the SLIDE and MAIN JET. That is the function of the PILOT JET and ENRICHER if there is one on your carb. The slide does not rise until you open the throttle and enough pressure builds in the venturi to get air under the Rubber Diaphgram which actually raises the slide and needle out of the MAIN JET, sort of like what happens with a hot air ballon.
Harleys, Scooters, Dirtbikes, ATVS whatever all work the same way. They all have Carbs some EFI, they all have a coil, cdi and stators and batteries. So if you know one you know how all the others work, just the parts may be different looking but they all do the same thing to make the motor work feed electricity for the lights and gauges.
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Post by ellpee on Jun 13, 2014 16:00:33 GMT -6
Turning over is when u push starter button and the motor turns over . I already said it is not running. No offense meant.. And certainly none intended on my part. But if turning over is the starter motor doing its thing, how is "cranking" different from that? I know my logon thing says professor, but I'm still entirely a learner on this forum, so I like to understand exactly what the various words mean that people use here. Sounds like with all your Harley time, you are a person I can learn from. |
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Post by rose on Jun 13, 2014 17:42:14 GMT -6
I'm sorry u could not under stand me. Jr told me early on he thought it was trash. He was right. Sorry i got to deep and confused you.
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Post by JR on Jun 13, 2014 20:35:18 GMT -6
It just sounded exactly like what happened to my wife one day. She was riding along and then bang, didn't run worth a flip. Myself I stopped at a station this summer and got a tank of bad gas, clean, clean, clean and now all is well.
Glad you got it figured out!
JR
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Post by ellpee on Jun 14, 2014 7:13:51 GMT -6
I'm sorry u could not under stand me. Jr told me early on he thought it was trash. He was right. Sorry i got to deep and confused you. So I take it you're not going to tell me the difference between "turning over" and "cranking" as you used the terms? OK, thanks. |
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Post by rose on Jun 14, 2014 10:40:14 GMT -6
You can turn a motor over with a wrench. You can turn the motor over wit the starter. To me when it turns over it has to fire to start. This motor would turn over , fire once or twice then . would act like it did not have gas ,fire or compression . the only thing with the compression. it was not turning over like it would if a valve was open. so it had me stunned. That is the only answer i can give you for turning over. I turn motors over all the time on the work bench. I hope this helps ELLPEE
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Post by ellpee on Jun 14, 2014 12:09:26 GMT -6
You've explained "turning over" to death, Rose; what I've been asking is, what is "cranking" to you if it's different from "turning over"? You used the two terms in one of your early posts as if they mean two different things.
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Post by fflintstone on Jun 14, 2014 13:47:41 GMT -6
Well elpee,let me clear this up for you -rose seems to be saying that cranking is the same thing as starting and running--to rose--first the starter turned the motor over and over but it failed to crank up,or start to run----i.e.cranking up-same as starting to run ...deep in the south ,we call it cranking up ,like--In a a sentence we say"Hey son,go out to the truck,car,motorcycle,tractor, and crank it up and let it warm up a little before driving it"--so what could happen in this scenario,son could come back and say"Hey Pop,dang thing won't crank ,it'll turn over good ,like the battery is ok,but it just won't crank(up)--hope this helps--apparently we have a geographical difference in the understanding what one word means--heck ,we probably wouldn't have had a war between the states if the language had been the same in the North as in the South--hope this helps clear it up --happy trails,all you old scoots--lol-fflintstone
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Post by ellpee on Jun 14, 2014 18:27:43 GMT -6
So "turning over" is what the starter does, even if the spark plug were disconnected, while "cranking" is what happens if there is spark and the engine fires and continues to turn, whether smoothly or roughly. Is that what y'all southron fellas are saying? Y'all sure talk funny!  |
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Post by fflintstone on Jun 14, 2014 23:45:50 GMT -6
Yup,we got a language that is very easy to learn--just sit down with me some day and we can sip on some good old moon shine for an hour or two,and and soon you will understand us--happy trails,fflintstone
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Post by rose on Jun 16, 2014 2:24:31 GMT -6
ellpee I believe with fun they have explained it where you can understand it . I'm a hill billy and proud of it. You people are right that is the way i was taught. Thanks Again
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Post by fflintstone on Jun 16, 2014 11:09:39 GMT -6
Hehe --you ok ,rose--now that we got elpee straightened out,lets ride--happy trails,fflintstone
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