2013 jonway 244cc Alot of vibration from left handle Bar By scot (Read 1,724 times)

[scot]

I desided I got a burst of energy with daylight still ,its not the brackets its the post either that center bolt gets tight ,I did not put torq to it yet want to be careful about this,in the first pic I can see the post moveing back an forth an I think the bolt to,in picture 2 I am showing you how much thread is there ,now I will go out an put my torq wrench on it that center bolt pics below soon

[scot]

Jun 2, 2014 17:03:57 GMT -6 scot said:

I desided I got a burst of energy with daylight still ,its not the brackets its the post either that center bolt gets tight ,I did not put torq to it yet want to be careful about this,in the first pic I can see the post moveing back an forth an I think the bolt to,in picture 2 I am showing you how much thread is there ,now I will go out an put my torq wrench on it that center bolt pics below soon ok check for tight now

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[scot]

I tighted up the center one an the big 1 an 1/4th inch nut was loose ,its tighter but now I wonder if I need to back the big one off an the one that looks like its need a pipe wrench needs to be tighter ,couse I realy gave it all I got big long wrench,probley 80lbs to 100 lbs each,like said tighter but not snug it seems poor design ,I wonder if backing off what tool works for the lower one under the big nut seen in the last picture,,the center one seems it should only need to be so tight that the big one is what keeps it from bending,?i wonder if I need to drop it down some then tighten is up ,see how much tread is there ,I guess enough for today don't want to break something,do you know what tool turn that an wich way it would turn thanks alot .though like said it was pretty loose an much tighter just not what I would think ,? it should not move right

[scot]

ok sorry if I been a pain ,but its the center bolt I clearly see moveing ,I need to figure out how to get more torq on it without striping it ,I tried the put wrench up against the steel there I don't want to strip it though,its almost like I need 4 hands ,those china men are weak torq it to 80lbs ,then back off a tad to get the wrench unstuck but bottom line they were loose along with a lot of others,got the main problem fix thanks again ,it does seem just a bit tighter would be better ,though I am a lot closer now ,should it be tighter then 80lbs ,I think there should be noticeable difference in the way is rides now ,aahh yes with the help of Alleyoop an scooter pro thanks man ,I may try to get it a bit tighter ,that center bolt an the weld are what hold the front end on eheehheheh,it was 14mm like most are metric ,I was using 9/16th was what almost striped it live an learn ,? do you know what the torq lbs should be on those I am thinking one more turn on both ,I don't have torq wrench for the big one ,mine goes to 80lbs ,down feels good right to left is harder to get more leverage on  ,an I guess tighter is better yup in this case anyhow ,the big one was near loose the little one not more then 60lbs was not getting it ,there aint to many like you alley ,most of them just read the thread ,intead of helping thanks ,I rpobley would have got there hut I got there faster couse of you the other 40 that read it aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh ,I got to say I may not been involved but been I am I get into posting an replying ,even if I am not sure

[scot]

Jun 2, 2014 14:33:59 GMT -6 alleyoop said:

Normally the handle bars are ONE piece so maybe the part that holds it to the tree the left side is loose or broke.

Can you move the left part of the handle bar forward and backward a little?
Alleyoop

well i got it all back together takes longer then takleing apart??? I guess I had few other questions,that big inch an quarter nut ,is it possible I had over tighten that ,now what I got it the streering is hard I made sure all the wires were right back wear they needed to be .? could I have over tighten the big one,the brass one in the 3rd picture it feels like the scooter does not want turn as freely now,other wise the other issue is fixed aaaahhhhh thanks scott

[scot]

Jun 3, 2014 16:51:24 GMT -6 scot said:

Jun 2, 2014 14:33:59 GMT -6 alleyoop said:

Normally the handle bars are ONE piece so maybe the part that holds it to the tree the left side is loose or broke.

Can you move the left part of the handle bar forward and backward a little?
Alleyoop

well i got it all back together takes longer then takleing apart??? I guess I had few other questions,that big inch an quarter nut ,is it possible I had over tighten that ,now what I got it the streering is hard I made sure all the wires were right back wear they needed to be .? could I have over tighten the big one,the brass one in the 3rd picture it feels like the scooter does not want turn as freely now,other wise the other issue is fixed aaaahhhhh thanks scott I put the pic in there hear

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[scot]

thanks Alleyoop I know you do all you can.revised ,the guys hear do all they can if your reading this thread or any other think about getting involved to the guys who are hear regularly you know who you are helping others, ,an those not get involved ,its better to guess or just try ,an fail then not to have tried chimeing in at all ,yes those who just read an don't reply,for me its no help for you to just read my thread ,to the regulars god bless you all

[scot]

then have to take it apart again,i think I gave this forum a lot of help in the short time I been hear ,

[alleyoop]

Sorry you feel that way, but you have to realize we do this on our own time and we have lives to live and for sure it is not any forum. We do this to help the guys get their rides up and running. I myself am an ADMIN on two other popular forums and it also appears I am the one mostly giving the correct info on what is wrong and what to do to fix it or get it running right. A lot of them try but usually give suggestions that have nothing to do with the problem at hand but that is because they just do not know how things work and what makes each system on a scoot tick. I have an upper hand since I used to build my own hotrods and race at the dragstrip every Sat and Sun so I know motors, carbs, trannies , cvts and know how it all works. It is just there are not to many guys that know this shit, heck some do not even know where the spark plug is on their single cylinder motor. I myself consider myself a hell of a mechanic and have fixed hundreds of guys scooters with whatever was the problem. Heck even a HONDA forum knows me by my call name they took some of my tips and tricks to their forum to get their HONDAs running(HAHA).

But sorry to see you go maybe the other forum your contemplating to join I AM ON ALSO A MEMBER(HAHA).
But whichever forum you join Wish you the Best
Alleyoop

[fflintstone]

I understand that scot may be a little frustrated with his problem and is seeking help from all the gurus on this forum but I gotta say,I can't hang out on here 24 -7 ,my wife expects me to take her to all the yard sales in 3 counties and I got to cut this grass before it becomes hay ,oops,too late,it rained again and now I need a bush hog to get it down and a scatter gun to to kill all the varmints hiding deep down in the jungle like weeds and grass that used to be my back yard--it has rained almost every day for a week and I have been sitting in here at the computer becoming a geek --now ,I got a few hours of dry sunlight,I got to stay outside and get as much yard work done as I can before the next monsoon hits--which is here now ,I think...I don't expect JR and alleyoop to be on here either every time I log in because I know JR is busy trying to get his truck garden to grow between the tornadoes and frog strangling gully washers we been getting here in the tornado alley and great flood of 2014...I suspect that alleyoop is still digging out from all the blizzards from last winter probably will drown when all the snow and ice melts--am I right alley? All I am trying to say,we try to help here on this forum and I looked at scot's thread and it got over 20 replies before he decided nobody wants to help--not cool, scot--hope you get your frustrations worked out before you leave us for other more talented forums and we will feel so alone without you--cheers,happy trails,fflintstone

[richardthescooter3]

Scot, I know it is frustrated when something is wrong with your scooter, (I know, been there) we get on and expect a quick response, but sometimes it take us sometime to see the post, I too have one full time job and a part time job, so I'm not on the forum the I'd like to be, this forum is one of the best forum you will find, with many on here such as alleyoop, JR, fflinstone and many more can help solve the problems with these scooters, (I know they have help me more times then I can count), which help me to grow in my knowledge to help others. I guess I said on of this to say, I hope you will stay and give us a chance to show what we have here.

[ellpee]

And -- though I don't put myself at the same expertise level as Alley and JR -- I didn't comment because I can't see any way only the LEFT side could be loose. One-piece handlebars, big center nut, and as I recall, two other sort of clamp things for the left and right sides, respectively, with ?two? nuts apiece. (I'm 400 miles from my Roketa right now, so can't check my recollections.) Scot is seeing what he's seeing, but I can't imagine how it could be possible for only one side to be loose.

Oh hey, something comes to mind that's really another question, not an answer. My Magnum actually has small-diameter, shock absorber type dampers for the front steering (found one of them completely unattached when the scooter was delivered!). I've not had my Roketa sufficiently dismantled to know if it has anything comparable; anybody know? If so, Scot's problem might be a loose/disconnected left damper ... ?

[scot]

thanks guys I know everyone is busy with there own lives nothing personal to any of you I know you all hear its that 575 that were hear ,?ok now that I got the 1 1/4th nut to tight how loose should it be to feel comfortable the one under it in my last picture posted above the silver one does that hold it in place ,?I know the big brass looking nut cant not be to tight but not to loose either I gave it the 4 turns back out, I thought that was part of my problem ,it was not it was the center bolt I torqed to 80lbs its tight ,I had give it I think 4 turns to left wich made it to tight rideing was stiff takeing corners,i just want to be sure that nut on top does not need to be that tight an the one below it looks like silver one holds things in place ,pretty much ,,?then it seems that way they run wires is poor there moveing around when you turn the wheel

[scot]

Jun 4, 2014 9:49:20 GMT -6 scot said:

thanks guys I know everyone is busy with there own lives nothing personal to any of you I know you all hear its that 575 that were hear ,?ok now that I got the 1 1/4th nut to tight how loose should it be to feel comfortable the one under it in my last picture posted above the silver one does that hold it in place ,?I know the big brass looking nut cant not be to tight but not to loose either I gave it the 4 turns back out, I thought that was part of my problem ,it was not it was the center bolt I torqed to 80lbs its tight ,I had give it I think 4 turns to left wich made it to tight rideing was stiff takeing corners,i just want to be sure that nut on top does not need to be that tight an the one below it looks like silver one holds things in place ,pretty much ,,?then it seems that way they run wires is poor there moveing around when you turn the wheel,i also take care of my mom an work so I know how hard it can be thanks guys

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[scot]

all is good now an tight it is that center nut ,need isay there was a lot of loose bolts there in the front end ,the problem was I tightened the brass one 1 1/4/th nut to much ,how loose should it be ,I had put like 4 quarter turns on it made it to tight,then back it off 4 quarter turns ,I did couse I felt loose ,now I suspect ,its should be somewhat loose thanks guys I know Alleyoop Ellpee flinstone thank you guys ,I know a lot to do ,hope that explain that last issues for now ,I guess i was a bit hasty ,I don't want to join another forum