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Post by alleyoop on Jan 26, 2013 13:07:09 GMT -6
If that helps I would think the problem is they are not aligned correctly or there is play on either one side or the other. Just about all that have bought those Reverse Trikes complain about that same problem at higher speeds. Some of the trikers arel only able to get up to around 30-40 without the front end shimming.
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Post by amac1680 on Jan 26, 2013 15:33:23 GMT -6
Liability will keep pretty much most shops away from these trikes.
The bungee thing at 60 mph scares me my friend.
Stay safe.
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Post by texomaev on Jan 26, 2013 16:36:12 GMT -6
Liability will keep pretty much most shops away from these trikes. The bungee thing at 60 mph scares me my friend. Stay safe. Be Big, AMAC Yes, It's certainly not a permanent install. Just trying to determine if an arm between the two hubs (holding them in tune with each other towards the front of the hub) would help keep the wheels from fluttering. Or if mounting two dampers one on each hub is the best. I'm leaning towards using two motorcycle steering dampers one for each hub. |
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 26, 2013 18:13:49 GMT -6
Check out this VIDEO of the PLAY:
And yes if you look at other Reverse Trikes the Tires look like they are going the wrong way. Maybe try switching them from one side to the other then see if that helps.
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Post by texomaev on Jan 26, 2013 19:50:27 GMT -6
Check out this VIDEO of the PLAY: And yes if you look at other Reverse Trikes the Tires look like they are going the wrong way. Maybe try switching them from one side to the other then see if that helps. Alleyoop Wow, thanks for showing me this. I do not think mine has that play in it, but I certainly am going to check it out. While the wheels were off, I pushed and pulled at every joint, so I thought, but now I am second guessing myself. |
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 26, 2013 20:04:46 GMT -6
Hope it helps.
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Post by texomaev on Jan 26, 2013 21:59:22 GMT -6
Check out this VIDEO of the PLAY: And yes if you look at other Reverse Trikes the Tires look like they are going the wrong way. Maybe try switching them from one side to the other then see if that helps. Alleyoop Wow, thanks for showing me this. I do not think mine has that play in it, but I certainly am going to check it out. While the wheels were off, I pushed and pulled at every joint, so I thought, but now I am second guessing myself. Mine certainly (Thankfully) does not have this play in it. After close r viewing of the video, it looks to me like he has some broken welds on the arm itself. Wondering if that is the after effects of several miles with the original flutter. I ordered two steering dampers for ATV's just now on Ebay for $25 each. Hoping they will lessen the flutter, and save the lower arm from this sort of damage. |
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Post by new2scootn on Jan 27, 2013 1:11:00 GMT -6
No broken welds on the trike in that video, just loose bushings. These are the bushings I mentioned to be sure to keep tight as they tend to loosen up after a couple hundred miles. Looking at those tires on line it looks like they're designed with the sipes attacking the road one way for the front tires and another for the rear. Looks to me like you got it right! As for the flutter in the front end I'm very curious to see how you make out with the dampers. I had to spin balance all three of my wheels and I also added Ride-On tire balancer and sealant to the tires. I am still using the original equipment tires(which may be slightly out of round-(my rear wheel took 3 oz to balance and hopped worse than yours before balancing) but this combo has all but eliminated the flutter/vibration. On another note about the brakes, all brakes are not applied when using either brake lever. The right lever applies only the front brakes and the left will apply primarily the rear brake but will also apply the fronts if you grip strongly. I would check with the front wheels raised up that the front brakes release fully after applying them with the right hand lever-mine hung up until I would squeeze the left hand lever then they would release. If you have this issue let me know, I have fixed it.
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Post by alleyoop on Jan 27, 2013 1:45:14 GMT -6
Yes there is a broken weld on the Left side, look closely as the Video starts and he starts to whiggle the front. You can see play in the bottom bolt in the Sleeve and the weld holding the Sleeve to the control arm piece.
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Post by texomaev on Jan 27, 2013 14:25:15 GMT -6
Tow-in for me is not an option on this particular DF300TKB, found myself fighting to keep it on the roadway even at low speed. Most certainly tow-out at least in my situation with this trike. I hope the dampers of which I plan to attach at the front of each hub, then to the trike frame will help dampen the flutter. I think if the steering arm was at the front of the hub instead of the back, it would have behaved much better. The highways here in Texas/Oklahoma where I plan on using the trike is so cutup with road gutters, from all the semi-gravel truck traffic, having an unstable front end doesn't help with matters. Normal motorcycles can be a challenge to keep on the road even.
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Post by texomaev on Jan 31, 2013 1:47:45 GMT -6
Is there a means of buying aftermarket or replacement windshields which are better suited for long distance highway traveling for these Chinese scooters? This particular trike's windshield is great for protecting the speedometer from bird droppings while parked, but really does nothing to help with wind fatigue at high speeds. If anything, it seems to direct the wind right at your face/helmet.
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Post by new2scootn on Feb 1, 2013 11:22:52 GMT -6
Is there a means of buying aftermarket or replacement windshields which are better suited for long distance highway traveling for these Chinese scooters? This particular trike's windshield is great for protecting the speedometer from bird droppings while parked, but really does nothing to help with wind fatigue at high speeds. If anything, it seems to direct the wind right at your face/helmet. Got a Slipstreamer Scoot-50 for mine. Haven't installed it yet but size seems right. |
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Post by texomaev on Feb 1, 2013 17:55:43 GMT -6
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Post by texomaev on Feb 2, 2013 15:56:33 GMT -6
Video of a pretty long run with the steering dampers installed. I'm quite happy with the feel of the Trike with these installed. Will certainly keep them in place.
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