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Post by timlebeau on Aug 10, 2012 20:02:23 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Aug 10, 2012 23:26:35 GMT -6
First of all welcome to the forum!  Live and learn on these harnesses because a lot of time people are told just plug it all in and it'll work and then find out when the get it then its the old "oh this is a generic one and you'll have to modify it" BS. So I copied your goggle pictures and I'll post them one at a time and then we'll go over this as best we can. OH Cruiser? Gonna need some eyeballs with me on this one. 07 Tank the harness is bound to be different in some ways? Here's the first picture:  I'll look this over tomorrow, just too tired for tonight. Again welcome and hopefully we'll get her going soon. JR |
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Post by timlebeau on Aug 11, 2012 0:59:16 GMT -6
hey thanks for the quick response the harness was suprisingly similar buta lot of different male/female connectors and old one had a fuse box. not sure on old one anymore since it's torn apart due to 3 different people trtying to help me  |
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Post by damin69 on Aug 11, 2012 5:32:51 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Aug 11, 2012 5:48:02 GMT -6
OK glad for that information and yes the Tank like any of the vertical engine clones has a fuse box and now you've told me that this harness doesn't seem to match up to that and that's not surprising either. Tank went out of business and any OEM Tank parts found are just left overs a few people had. If this harness you bought doesn't have the correct number of wires for the fuse box then it's no big deal to eliminate it any way. The 250B with the linhai runs just fine with only two fuses. Now here is the 250B section for wiring diagrams and the first two diagrams is what you need to decide on as far as which one to use. The first one the CfMoto clone does have the fuse box like the tanks. thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=250g&action=display&thread=430Also do you have a link to the harnesss you purchased, I might be able to tell if it supports a fuse box system? The chances of you getting a exact OEM harness was slim to none and the fact of different plugs you have discovered even further proves that. What we will have to do is match up wires so you need to get ready to cut off plugs and we'll have to put on new single male/female connectors to be able to match up the wires to make her well again. BTW why did you buy a new hareness anyway? Some of the plugs may match and work? Some wire colors are pretty standard on Chinese scooters some like Tank liked to use other colors but if you use one of the first two diagrams in the tech link I gave you it doesn't matter what wire color you use as long as the circuit to what it goes to is correcxt. Wire colors that are generally pretty standard like black for 12Vdc from the key switch to green for a ground and the harness will have this green wire throughout the harness. In the picture above I can see the rectifier/regulator (R/R) but cannot see where the plug in your hand is coming from? Is it from the R/R itself? Or is it from the engine? What are the wire colors? Need to know this information before I can tell where this goes? JR |
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Post by richardthescooter3 on Aug 11, 2012 9:33:56 GMT -6
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Post by timlebeau on Aug 11, 2012 18:33:25 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Aug 11, 2012 21:16:33 GMT -6
Ok here is that picture;  In this picture the 3 yellows from the R/R will indeed plug into the other plug in the picture with the 3 yellows, the R/R has a male plug and the other 3 yellow plug is female. To be absolutely sure trace out the 3 yellow female plug and it should go into the engine at the top of the case. So that part is a done deal. Now you should have 3 other wires coming out of the R/R red = voltage charge wire to the battery, it may tie into the red fused wire going to the ignition key switch and if so then great if not then find a red wire in this harness and even if you have to add a piece of wire do so. black= 12Vdc feed wire form the ignition key switch. It reads voltage and tell the R/R what to put out so trace out the black wire off of the key switch and tie this wire into it. green = ground, tie it in with the gree wire that runs all over the scooter and make sure it is cleanly mounted on the frame where the black negative battery cable ties on. You now have the charging system done. Now here's what is making this a little more difficult and it's the fact you bought a 150cc scooter harness for a obvious 250 scooter. I also thought the Specail Edition (SE) was only a 150cc scooter too? We can do this so heres the next thing I need to know and for you to do. There will be one more single bullett connector wire coming out of the engine with the 3 plug yellow wires. This is the pulse sensor wire from the stator pick up coil. I need to know what color it is and know that you can find it. I also need to a picture of your CDI and need to know if you found any type plugs on the new harness that will plug into it? If so take a picture of them and list the wire colors. The good thing about Tank is they did use the same harness on both of their touring scooters the 150 and 250 but the 150 harness will not have as many things to hook up the temp gauge cooling fan and etc. We'll work it out, JR |
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Post by timlebeau on Aug 21, 2012 3:58:24 GMT -6
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Post by timlebeau on Aug 21, 2012 4:01:52 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Aug 21, 2012 5:59:42 GMT -6
Yes this is the CDI plug and wires go as follows; green = ground red/white= pulse or pickup coil, this wire goes to the engine stator so trace it back to where the 3 yellows come out of the engine going to the R/R to be sure. black/yellow = coil feed wire so trace it back to the spark plug coil to make sure it's going to the right place. The coil will also have a green/ground wire to it also. The other two wires I can't make out in the glare of the picture but we need two more wires to the CDI preferably a black wire that will tie into any black from the key switch that will have 12Vdc to it with the key on and.... A wire going to the key and emergency handle bar kill switch, this wire is usually black/white or gray/white but it still doesn't matter as long as we get it to the right spots. JR |
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Post by JR on Aug 21, 2012 6:02:06 GMT -6
This is hard to see what it is but it appears to be the gas tank fuel gauge sending wire out of the tank, please verify? JR |
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Post by timlebeau on Aug 21, 2012 8:07:48 GMT -6
Yes this is the CDI plug and wires go as follows; green = ground red/white= pulse or pickup coil, this wire goes to the engine stator so trace it back to where the 3 yellows come out of the engine going to the R/R to be sure. black/yellow = coil feed wire so trace it back to the spark plug coil to make sure it's going to the right place. The coil will also have a green/ground wire to it also. The other two wires I can't make out in the glare of the picture but we need two more wires to the CDI preferably a black wire that will tie into any black from the key switch that will have 12Vdc to it with the key on and.... A wire going to the key and emergency handle bar kill switch, this wire is usually black/white or gray/white but it still doesn't matter as long as we get it to the right spots. JR red/white black/yellow /green grey/white red/black are the cdi colors im going to be working on this throughout the day, so any question or comment just ask/add and I will try to get this thing working |
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Post by JR on Aug 21, 2012 9:34:36 GMT -6
OK the first plug you have with the 3 colors already spliced into the harness are good to go as long as they go to where I said and plug back in the right place on the CDI the 3 plug. Here is a picture of the CDI for your scooter with wire color and pin locations on the CDI:  Now remember you bought a harness for a 150 scooter and on the two plug we will use the grey/white wire it is the engine CDI kill wire. As I stated earlier it will go to the key switch and the handlebar emergency engine kill switch. The key switch will have 4 main wires; red = 12Vdc feed from the battery you need to use the red wire on that harness with the fuse in it. green = ground wire black = 12Vdc feed to accessories with key on grey/white = engine kill wire on the key switch side of the plug this wire may be a different color but we will tie in the grey/white to it going to the correct pin location on the CDI in that picture. The red/black wire you got on the new harness is useless unless it's long enough to make it to the black 12Vdc feed wire off of the key switch, if so use it but I'm betting it is short due to the fact of when it is on a 150cc scooter it only runs to the engine stator. If this is the case then you will need a length (preferably black) of at least 16 to 14ga copper wire to hook up the voltage feed to the CDI from the key switch Now if you can get all these wires ran like I have said from the CDI and yo all of it's hook ups including the black yellow from the CDI then it should spark or fire provided you have the starter circuits wired right to make it turn over. Will be in and out all day. JR |
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Post by timlebeau on Aug 21, 2012 14:25:22 GMT -6
can you help sort this? Attachments:
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