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Thanks for replying John,
I've found that it is indeed the bearings, the cage had totally disintergrated
...dunno where the bearings have gone..
this is all that is left of the cage (in the foreground)
i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/liammcl_2006/delmas%20moped/CIMG6800_zps6a9a7a0d.jpg

and there is no bearings at all in there
...I didn't take anything out...that is how it was !

s103.beta.photobucket.com/user/liammcl_2006/media/delmas%20moped/CIMG6802_zps29c4c125.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

I have to try and work out what is supposed to be in there...1 set of bearings or two etc

The splines have small chunks missing too...it has had better days !

Oh, it's fine JR,
I only bought one for £10 ($15)

the other 12 I've ordered should work fine, as they stipulate that htey are for the Honda sky.

I am at this moment taking one apart to see what's on the PCB, just for interest.

For sure, I'll let people over here know.

I'll raise a cup of tea to your good health

Cheers
Liam

Thanks JR,
I've just had a quick look at a moped forum in Dutch,
and the wiring diagram looks like the right hand most wire (red and black) of thr R/R does go to the CDI unit.

In the diagram , the colours are different because it is a suzuki ay50 katana (the R/R is the same)

Here's the link to the manual & wiring diagram
.scooterhulp.com/instructieboekjes-en-manuals/9200-suzuki-ay50-katana-sh-rip-manual.html#post18542" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">.scooterhulp.com/instructieboekjes-en-manuals/9200-suzuki-ay50-katana-sh-rip-manual.html#post18542

...and I'll try and upload it to my site, to save you having to register in Dutch.

Here's a quick pic...
i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/liammcl_2006/honda%20sky%20moped%20-%20sgx50/moped2.jpg


btw, this is what the cdi for the Honda Sky looks like
i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/liammcl_2006/honda%20sky%20moped%20-%20sgx50/DSC00006.jpg
I'll have a proper look 2mrw.


Thanks for all your help, it was very much appreciated JR

We've covered a fair trail ....
the UK , USA , Japan (Honda & Suzuki),
Italy (Ducati ) & Holland (Manual)

Cheers
Liam
* Edit *
You should be able to download it from my site for a bit,
.loonyl.talktalk.net/JR/Suzuki%20AY50%20Katana%20SH%20RIP%20manual%20optimized.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">.loonyl.talktalk.net/JR/Suzuki%20AY50%20Katana%20SH%20RIP%20manual%20optimized.pdf

yup, the other one did exactly the same

i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/liammcl_2006/honda%20sky%20moped%20-%20sgx50/DSC00001-1.jpg

just in case , I'm getting confused...
I start the moped up and whilst it is running , I take the wiress out of the one on the left, in this picture
i103.photobucket.com/albums/m147/liammcl_2006/honda%20sky%20moped%20-%20sgx50/DSC00009.jpg
and the moped cuts out. The lights are still on & the engine turns over but it won't start.

It must be a weird setup?

Thanks for your time and patience, JR

Cheers
Liam
*edit* I bought all 3, second hand, from different sellars

Thank you so much for your help and the welcome to the forum !

I have 3 honda Skys, the years are 1998 to 2002,
but no manual I'm afraid.

I was going to ring Honda support tommorow on 0845 200 800 (UK)
but with your help, ( which I appreciate immensely ! ) I think the wiring is exactly as you say.

I was kinda getting there with a continuity test from the rectifier to the battery & stator, but I wouldn't hae worked out what the red/black - black wire was, in a month of sundays !

In passing, I did try that layout & the moped wouldn't start,
but I'm sure it will tommorow, or that something has blown inside the rectifier when I was trying different combos
(I know it was a bit risky... )

Just this second, I was about to buy 12 of the (kinda) original ones from china for $225 , but there is a 4 week waiting.

Just one more question, if I may...
Are all regulators much the same with regards voltage & ampage out..
I suppose that would imply that all moped stators generate similar ac voltages & ampage?

Many Thanks again
Liam