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Post by ellpee on Mar 27, 2019 8:13:50 GMT -6
Well I went looking for electrical advice and actually found a very Mom'n'Pop auto electrical shop that was willing to work on the Magnum. So I trailered it down there yesterday, we'll see if he can identify the problem. Rapid Jim did steer me to a reasonable wiring diagram, which helps somewhat, but my skills in that regard are limited, hopefully this guy can pinpoint it. Baffles me how all the dash indicator lights can be lighting up at once when the accessories they are associated with are completely inoperative. Seems counterintuitive.
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Post by cyborg on Mar 31, 2019 7:28:11 GMT -6
Boy we must be related,,electrical gremlins often give me the most trouble,,,I'd hate to see you sell it ,,they are quite nice when they are working properly,,,
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Post by ellpee on Apr 1, 2019 14:32:25 GMT -6
Latest, guy says wiring my electric fuel pump into the line that feeds the enricher was the core of my problem. Pump draws considerable amps, enricher end of what comes out of the key switch couldn't handle it, so eventually other competing things started flickering and then just gave up. Solution was dedicated feed from battery to pump through a relay, key on turns on the relay and gives pump its own dedicated wire from the battery, no amperage competition with lights/horn/etc etc. Proof, of course, will be in the road trip pudding; he says it'll be ready to roll tomorrow, after which I have to put all the front plastics back on and we'll see what happens. Also cracked the rear plastic again trailering it down there, so have that kind of repair work to do. Good thing I'm retired and have plenty of time to hassle around with this stuff.
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Post by cyborg on Apr 2, 2019 8:08:52 GMT -6
Wow that was fast!! Hopefully inexpensively ,,,sometimes those kinds of shops are very reasonable,,,,not greedy,,,that's a number to keep
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Post by ellpee on Apr 2, 2019 11:03:03 GMT -6
The saga goes on. Guy said I should replace both handlebar switch assemblies, ordered what looked like equivalents from Amazon, don't work. Electrical is okay (as in he can re-wire around that), but plastics don't line up right when reinstalling, so have contacted RapidJim about OEM replacements. Hopefully won't be another 6-8 week backorder situation. If I can get this scoot back into a "sellable" condition, it's going to be really hard to justify keeping it any longer.
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Post by cyborg on Apr 3, 2019 6:38:03 GMT -6
Good morning ,,,what's the latest with the trike?im dying to hear,,,and also were they reasonably priced?
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Post by ellpee on Apr 3, 2019 15:15:02 GMT -6
RapidJim is having his parts person check with Ice Bear, initial response was "out of stock" but they are supposedly physically checking the warehouse to be sure (Jim thought that would be something they would always have in stock). Meanwhile I'm continuing to search the Internet for something better than the last one I bought, which looked fine externally but the innards were not compatible. If I knew of a scooter junkyard or somebody selling one for parts I'd almost be at that stage by now. Once, JUST ONCE, I'd like to order a part from Ice Bear and have them actually have it in stock in their California warehouse!
(BTW, although Jim uses the Yamaha YP-250 service manual to work on the Magnums, if you try to Google for YP-250 parts (or ask a Yamaha dealer about them, which I did), you'll come up blank. Dealer said the YP-250 might be a model they didn't market in the US.)
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Post by cyborg on Apr 4, 2019 7:47:54 GMT -6
I researched the Stella I have and parts availability was high on the list,,,I found one place that specialized in genuine brand parts so I pulled the trigger on mine,,,thank the gods it doesn't need any,,,I guess I got lucky,,,I've had a few very small issues early on but for the last 4000+ miles it's been oil change and tires
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Post by ellpee on Apr 4, 2019 14:33:33 GMT -6
Latest, after a three-way chat between me, my shop guy, and Jim, we're going to just order thru Jim and wait it out. Left switch is in stock, but right switch could take 6-8 weeks. Cost for both $115 more or less (aftermarket switches were $20, but of course they didn't fit). Only good news, my guy will store the scoot until the parts get here instead of me trailering it back and forth.
Bulletin for other Ice Bear trike owners, Jim says they've discontinued the entire 300 series, which is their alibi for not having replacement parts in stock. Anybody considering a Magnum or Zodiac or Tornado that might still be out there in the supply chain, beware. One more black mark on Ice Bear's report card as far as I'm concerned. Pretty sure you can still get parts for Saturns, and Pontiacs, and Plymouths, and probably even Packards!
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Post by cyborg on Apr 7, 2019 9:04:21 GMT -6
That was a leading factor for me deciding not to buy a Chinese scoot of any brand,,,parts availability,,,the Stella runs a bunch of Vespa px200e electrical parts like switches ,lites and quite a few parts mechanically and body parts so that was the reason I pulled the trigger on it
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Post by ellpee on Apr 8, 2019 8:47:24 GMT -6
My first was a Roketa, and I had lots of electrical issues with it until I finally put in one of Oregon's gorilla-grade regulators. But with the Magnum it's been one darn thing after another, brakes, plastics, electrical, throttle, carburetor x 3, fuel pump x 2, and on and on and on. Lesson learned. From now on, ABC (anything but Chinese). Only hope my posts here can save somebody else what I've been through.
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Post by crwford on Apr 9, 2019 9:53:57 GMT -6
ellpee has it only half right the real story is they are introducing a fuel injection system which mean yes it won't be call the same thing. While this is still under R&D it will be a while because of a need of a small computer to run it and dial it in. It's funny how some people don't follow up with things before saying the wrong thing. Well half wrong thing LOL.
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Post by ellpee on Apr 9, 2019 14:56:43 GMT -6
Well, if the "old style" 300's are being phased out, and parts are therefore not being kept in stock, seems like I'm more like 90% right within the context of this discussion. Jim did mention the fuel injection thing. Fuel injection all well and good, but then what do we "legacy" people do about keeping our older, carbureted scooters going? See my comment a couple posts ago about still being able to get parts for cars that haven't been manufactured for years, or even decades. Not nice to leave customers high and dry like that so their only option is to buy another of your newer-and-better products and send their old one to the landfill.
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Post by cyborg on Apr 10, 2019 8:19:07 GMT -6
Lesson learned indeed
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Post by crwford on Apr 11, 2019 19:34:05 GMT -6
I just got ordered a rear axle and a few plastics for my 2013 Zodiac from bobcats motorsports. They said my parts will be shipped tomorrow. I asked them about having problems on getting ,they tell somethings you may have to order and wait 3 weeks but in general no to my question.
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