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Post by paulviino10 on Aug 28, 2013 16:48:36 GMT -6
Vacuum hose / fuel hose routing 2012 ice bear cyclone (157Qmj) Is there any one who could point me in that direction? I am having a hard time getting the engine to run at cold or warm start. I have to crank on the starter a while or a few times to get the engine running. When it starts it runs fine. Shut it down again hard to start will sometime back fire then start up(Warm). Installed new plug (.035), valves are set at .003. At times I smell fuel other times nothing. I figure start with the basics,air, vacuum, fuel, spark. the problem recently started after changing a dirty fuel filter as well as a couple leaking dry rotted fuel lines. (Tank to the filter to the petcock lines replaced.) thanks Paul
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Post by tvnacman on Aug 28, 2013 20:11:06 GMT -6
flex the carb in the manifold , the manifolds tend to crack and lean the mix you can wiggle or flex it . This may help in location the source , sometimes the "t" cracks .
John
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Post by paulviino10 on Aug 30, 2013 19:09:27 GMT -6
****** UPDATE******* Problem solved. I do not know where I read an article or reply about using only champion spark plugs.I Researched every where for vacuum hose, fuel line schematics / routing, basic theory etc. I checked every line, fitting every attachment point. Looking for the obvious. When I changed the fuel filter and fuel lines I also changed the spark plug( advance did not have any in champion only auto lite, that's why I prefer Auto zone but autozone was extremely busy). I replaced a champion with a autolite via the cross reference chart. My ride will only use champion plugs. It was extremely frustrating yet all the time It was as simple as the plug. the trike was getting spark just not the right stuff, Its always seem to be the simple stuff. Put about 60 miles on her tonight and she is good to go. I need to return the other plug and put two in the trunk for spares..... Thank you tvnacman for the info.. Paul
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Post by msgusaf on Sept 1, 2013 21:01:53 GMT -6
Try an NGK C7HSA Plug in your Cyclone. I think you'll be surprised.
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Post by paulviino10 on Sept 2, 2013 14:31:23 GMT -6
that what was in the motor when i got the trike from my sister. i just have better range with an 808 champ. auto lite was best performance wise but ridiculous to start even after it warmed up. ngk would sometimes just die out at intersections. you figure do a little PM to save a breakdown. but sometimes.... the original purchaser did some really screwy things with wiring and connectors. 9 months later i'm still finding odd connections. I don't think the original owner thought the whole thing threw. so far i have removed 12 feet of wire different ,connectors different gauge wire connected in the same run.wire nuts uncrimped connections. I do believe that i do have a bad or faulty coil though. one thing at time. take it start to finish. i'l be comming up on 3000 miles though. Absolutly love the machine, look forward to the future challenges. its never left me walk yet. longest ride to date was 87 miles. usually just around town. 40 - 60 miles a week.
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Post by msgusaf on Sept 2, 2013 17:42:10 GMT -6
I've had my Cyclone since May 0f 2012. I had to replace the chain. Lost one of the adjuster nuts and the chain broke. I've since used Lock tite and 2 nuts on the adjusters. I love mine also. I also replaced the Air Filter and Fuel Filter when I first got the trike. Seems to run just fine. It would die at lights once in a while before I changed the plug. Runs pretty darn good since. No problems starting all winter in the Nebraska cold. Started every time.
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Post by paulviino10 on Sept 3, 2013 3:24:11 GMT -6
They are a truly neat ride. I have had the larger bikes, engines.horsepower. But as time ages me, it seems it is not just the destination it is the journey. I really don't mind all the nickel and dime having to look over the trike stuff, its just what I do its always enlightening. Plus you have so many knowledgeable people on this site. Sometimes after a 30 or 40 minute quick ride it just seems to put everything in perspective. You really have to pay attention, here in Pa there are a lot oh hills. As well as impatient drivers. Most of the time if I know it will be a long pull up a steep grade I'll pull over and let those in a hurry to go past. I may have a place to go or important to be but I will enjoy every minute on the trike. I work fleet maintenance on a company that transports insurance / worker comp patients. so access to tools and lifts is diffidently not a problem. I seem to always be tethered to this job. So the cyclone enjoyment is just that much more. I spend a lot of times with neighbors and family / friends working there auto troubles too. If you love what you do It ain't work.
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