Bad wire??? By 04prixgt04 (Read 1,463 times)

[04prixgt04]

1st: 2006 sunL adventure 150cc

2nd: I had an ongoing head/dash/tail light issue for a month. finally got an 8 pole stator and had lights. Then.... 2 weeks later no lights.

3rd: I when i i check voltage i have 19+vac where the stator wire (yellow) hooks up to the harness. when i check it on the other end (right before the R/R) I have .5VAC. so i figured bad wire. so I took the wire (harness side) off the stator and to the 12v battery. lights!!! so the wire can take 12vdc from 1 end to the other. but not 19vac. hmmmm

4th: i decided i need to solder the connection (was twisted and taped) i turn on the bike and i have lights off the stator wire. Case closed. Not.. 1 block down the road no lights again. hook to the battery and they are on. re-solder to stator and nothing. I have never heard of a wire half working. i thought maybe it a position thing and it just happen to be in the right position when it was connected to the battery but no because the the lights would flicker on and off as i hit bumps and jiggled the wires. anyways i am gonna run a new wire but wanted to see what yall thought. thanx in advance

[alleyoop]

Well it defintely appears to be a loose connection Either Ground wire or live wire either one.
So I would go around and wiggle some wires and see if you get the flicker on the lights then you can trace it down to the exact wire.
Alleyoop

[JR]

Yellow stator wire goes to the R/R and the wire that feeds the lights (usually brown) but sometimes yellow ties in between the two.

Yes the wire can be bad and/or have a bad connection but since they are going on and off especially with the scooter hitting bumps I'm suspecting a loose wire or bad hi/lo beam switch.

The switch has contact points and if they are corroded or loose the problem you now have will for sure happen.

JR

[04prixgt04]

Im sorry. what i meant was if it was a loose wire connecter they would go on/off when i hit bumps. but they don't.

[alleyoop]

We were all going by this last statement in your opening post. You got them to work but then:

the lights would flicker on and off as i hit bumps and jiggled the wires. anyways i am gonna run a new wire but wanted to see what yall thought. thanx in advance

Alleyoop

[alleyoop]

We were all going by this last statement in your opening post. You got them to work but then:

the lights would flicker on and off as i hit bumps and jiggled the wires. anyways i am gonna run a new wire but wanted to see what yall thought. thanx in advance

If that last statement is not what is happeing WHAT is the situation NOW? Do you have Lights or Not, IF so when do they work? Or when do they NOT WORK?
Alleyoop

[04prixgt04]

sorry. i was working when i posted. they work with battery but not stator and the stator is making more than enough VAC. It is like the wire knows the diff between VAC and VDC and rejects the VAC. i noticed that when i test voltage where the stator wire (yellow) meets the harness , the voltage drops to nothing (05vac) unhookit and its right back to 19+VAC at the stator wire. I can take it right off the stator and to the battery and its good. i have tried 3 R/R's. That voltage is going somewhere. could it be escaping because it ac and goes where it pleases as apposed to dc only going 1 way?

[alleyoop]

That is ok but now you explained it better, I am not a Electrical Guru so I will let JR get on this one.
Alleyoop

[JR]

I'm extremely confused? When you say you have 19Vac on the yellow wire are you talking about the yellow wire from the stator with it unhooked from the R/R or with the R/R hooked up?

If so then this is the correct reading on this wire give or take a volt. Again the lighting circuit is tied in to the yellow wire between the stator and R/R, usually a brown wire.

What I want to know is what voltage you have coming off of the red wire on the R/R from the R/R and no lights hooked up at all.

JR

[04prixgt04]

yes , 19*vac from the stator and i am almost positive i checked with and w/o the R/R and got the same reading. i am at work and can do more testing tomorrow and i will forsure theck the v from red wire. i wanna say i already cheched it and it was around 4 (ac/dc unknown off the top of my head) i will check voltage everywhere in diff situations (ie lights plugged in vs not and with R/R and w/o R/R. and also thank you so very much for your help and excusing my grammer. im typing these in between work calls lol and cant fix them

[alleyoop]

Not a problem o4prix, Jr will figure it out, he is the best electrical guy you will ever find.
and get to work BRO you have to get payed to most likely buy a new R/R which sounds like that may be the problem.
Alleyoop

P.S it is amazing how many R/Rs do not work, they do not test them they just get a shit load from the distributor and sell them.

Maybe our own TVANCMAN has the R/R you need HE DOES TEST the Electrical items.

[alleyoop]

Never mind I re-read you have an 8 pole stator 150.
Alleyoop

[04prixgt04]

i don't think it's the R/R. I have 3 of them. But at this point i am so stumped i dunno anymore. but i did check continuity on the R/R's and they do only permit voltage one way just like a diod so i assume there gravy. I am good with electrical for the most part. wired up several car / home audio systems, and made a 89 in automotive electrical class. but this has broken my head for over a month now and i am sooo stubborn i have to fix everything myself so no way i paying diagnostic fees lol. so yeah thanx and ill have more info minyana =)

[04prixgt04]

yeah i am totally going with an 11 pole as soon as i can from tvancman

[alleyoop]

Well when you test the output from the R/R that will tell it all.
Alleyoop