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Post by robert1c on Nov 12, 2012 14:02:40 GMT -6
Hi Guys- here is a video of my scoot. we are not giving it any throttle and the wheel is turning right away. it dies when we pull the break.
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 12, 2012 14:20:03 GMT -6
That belt looks awefully high on the VARIATOR and as soon as you start it notice it pulls the belt down in the CLUTCH pulley. Start it up like you did and give it some gas and watch the VARIATOR to see if it moves in and out ok. The Weights may be stuck and holding the VARIATOR out to far. Also it sounds like it picks up speed without you giving it throttle so also try lowering the IDLE on it.
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Post by robert1c on Nov 12, 2012 16:14:35 GMT -6
i didnt even think about the variator being stuck open!!! going to check that now. i was going to try to take the clutch apart but i think ill start here first
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Post by robert1c on Nov 12, 2012 16:44:17 GMT -6
ok just pulled off and opened up. i have sliders in there and it was FULL of belt dust and dry. i need to go get more grease and a new bolt as it stripped when i pulled it off. do you by any chance no what type of thread that is on the spindle for the variator?
Thank you very much Alleyoop i THINK this just might be the issue. i think it was stuck high because it was dry. I'll confirm this when i get back from the autopart store.
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 12, 2012 16:57:28 GMT -6
I hope that is it, just happened to notice the belt was pretty high just sitting there and then when you started it it immediatley pulled the belt down in the Clutch pulley.
Sorry but I do not know the thread but they are usually 1.5, but you can take it to a hardware store and they will find out for you and may even have them.
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Post by wheezy on Nov 12, 2012 19:36:32 GMT -6
ok just pulled off and opened up. i have sliders in there and it was FULL of belt dust and dry. i need to go get more grease and a new bolt as it stripped when i pulled it off. do you by any chance no what type of thread that is on the spindle for the variator? Thank you very much Alleyoop i THINK this just might be the issue. i think it was stuck high because it was dry. I'll confirm this when i get back from the autopart store. i want to clarify something. Are you saying you are going to grease the sliders? Guys please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought it should be dry. Grease would do more harm than good, since it would just collect the belt dust. A good cleaning with brake cleaner would be better. |
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 12, 2012 20:00:19 GMT -6
The reason I believe they put grease in there is because the Weights fit really loose in the Variator slots and they want to stop the rattleing noise to quiet it down.
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Post by robert1c on Nov 12, 2012 20:30:29 GMT -6
sorry guys i guess i should clarify. im going to grease the cylinder that fits between two halves of the variator and put a little lithium grease on the cylinder of the clutch as they are both very dry. i think the dryness caused the variator stick when it got hot. i havent been able to validate this as i stripped the nut for the variator. once i find out the size ill buy one and and test it out.
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Post by cruiser on Nov 12, 2012 20:33:08 GMT -6
The reason I believe they put grease in there is because the Weights fit really loose in the Variator slots and they want to stop the rattleing noise to quiet it down. my .02 Alleyoop I agree with Alley and wheezy. A small amount of grease on each weight will help hold them in their respective channels so that they don't get twisted around while assembling the variator. If you are careful, you can assemble without grease when doing sliders which will help reduce the amount of dirt attracted to the variator. I like to use a dry lube like Jigaloo which helps the sliders slide more smoothly. |
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 12, 2012 21:36:50 GMT -6
Yea Baby, we will get that dang wheel rolling right ;D  Alleyoop |
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Post by robert1c on Nov 13, 2012 15:36:29 GMT -6
OK guys i found out what the nut size is. its M14 1.0 fine thread. now trying to find some where to buy it.
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 13, 2012 16:19:57 GMT -6
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Post by robert1c on Nov 13, 2012 18:41:29 GMT -6
Hi Alleyoop,
Ok i found the nut at a local Bike shop and came home and put it on. Same issue. i did lower the idle as well. it seems to start fine but once started the variator engages and moves out pushing the belt up and engaging the clutch. im lost at what to look for. the variator is the original one with new sliders. My concern is that when I apply the rear break the engine dies.
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Post by wheezy on Nov 13, 2012 19:22:31 GMT -6
Hi Alleyoop, Ok i found the nut at a local Bike shop and came home and put it on. Same issue. i did lower the idle as well. it seems to start fine but once started the variator engages and moves out pushing the belt up and engaging the clutch. im lost at what to look for. the variator is the original one with new sliders. My concern is that when I apply the rear break the engine dies. OK. Combined with your original problem of the wheel not wanting to turn, it sounds as if your clutch is constantly engaged. At idle, it is normal for the variator to turn, in turn spinning the clutch. But at that engine speed, the clutch bell should not be moving. if it is, your clutch pads and springs need to be checked and cleaned. |
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Post by alleyoop on Nov 13, 2012 20:47:48 GMT -6
Wheezy is correct the clutch is engaging the bell and turning your wheel. Something may be broke inside like a spring or part of clutch arm not allowing a clutch arm or arms retract and not make contact with the bell.
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