Ignition ON = no electrical By HotStuff2 (Read 6,091 times)

[alleyoop]

Hey Hotstuff, have you checked for spark or not it is not going to get fixed by looking at it. And just so you know you have multiple problems. So I would first concentrate on getting it running using the kickstarter then we can work on the Electric start.

Just so you know I have the same motor 157QMJ on my Trike.
Alleyoop

[HotStuff2]

Alright, lots to do. You guys are information overload (just the way I like it!) Going to finish up my coffee, wake up my son, and start tearing into this bike. I want - nay, I *need*! - it to be running.

I'll get to these points and report back.

[HotStuff2]

STATUS: RUNNING

Based on the information overload you gurus presented, I began tearing into the bike in earnest this morning. It appears the fix was much, much simpler than we expected.

I should preface this with saying that since I put the Dragon Custom Big Shot Exhaust and Air Intake on, one of the problems I've been experiencing is an undue amount of vibration. So much so, that bolts rattle/vibrate themselves loose.

Relying on my computer technician experience, I decided to follow straight-forward trouble-shooting skills, and begin with the easiest fix first.

I checked the ground cable coming from the valve cover to the battery. A day or so ago, I noticed that the connector @ the battery was loose; so much so, that I tore it apart from the wire by accident. This morning I took the wire off the valve cover, re-attached the connector solidly, and then soldered the wire to the ring connector. I then re-attached the wire to the valve connector.

After checking that the wires to the solenoid were good, I thought, "What the hell", and re-connected the battery cables. Sure enough, the clock did NOT dim when I pressed the start button. I put the key in the "ON" position, and after cranking her for a bit - surprise, she turned over! - it finally started.

So it appears that the entire problem was a loose ground wire to the battery.

The new ignition and electric start button shipped from Eagle ATV Parts (Taotao); since I don't need the ignition switch, I'm going to try and refuse the shipment (to avoid paying s/h fees back to them), and just order the electric start button by itself.

I'm pissed at myself for taking so long to find such a simple problem.

edit: Also, probably the reason I couldn't start it by kick-starting the motor was due to my bad right hip and back, and probably the ground wire as well. It's a PITA for me to try and kick down hard and fast enough to turn the motor over, and that's why the electric start is what I need.

[alleyoop]

FANTASTIC, easy fix is right good to hear it is up and running.
Yes always work on the simpliest first and get them out of the way.

Here are some of the simple things to check when it will not crank up.
If a motor will not fire at all and just crank even when feeding a little gas manually then the first thing is to check for spark. Then the next thing to check for no spark would naturally be to make sure you have the killswitch on the run position. Then start checking the ground wires from the frame to the motor then battery to frame grounds.

If you feed it a little fuel manually and it attempts to fire and or starts and dies you then can suspect a fuel delivery problem. Clogged fuel filter, Bad Vacuum hose and or leaking, back petcock/fuel pump, carb clogged.
Alleyoop

[JR]

Glad it worked out so well Hotstuff and if you have to keep the ordered parts then I would list them in our section where we see or trade for things, include a decription and good pictures of the parts with the wire colors and such. A lot of these parts fit other scooters too.

Also thanks for the compliment on the other forum.

scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=talk&action=display&thread=54179

JR