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Post by rapidjim on Mar 15, 2012 8:38:39 GMT -6
Ice Bear is out of 300 Magnums. The factory is doing an extensive upgrade. The new Magnums should be available in late April. No news yet whether or not there will be a price increase.
Only way to get a Magnum now is from a dealer who has left over inventory from last year.
Jim/Owner
Rapid Repair
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Post by alleyoop on Mar 15, 2012 17:54:26 GMT -6
Jim,
Do you know what kind of EXTENSIVE upgrades they are doing?
Alleyoop
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Post by rapidjim on Mar 17, 2012 17:06:09 GMT -6
Jim, Do you know what kind of EXTENSIVE upgrades they are doing? Alleyoop Not at this time. Neither does IB in Ca. Must be a factory thing LOL Jim |
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 3, 2012 8:00:45 GMT -6
Update.
I just talked to my rep at Ice Bear late yesterday and the release of the new model and the Magnum has been pushed back to sometime in May. The owner of the US Distributorship (Pacific Rim, Ca.) if flying out to China mostlikely this week to look at and test ride them to make sure they have gotten the bugs out before he will Import any more 300's. To me that says a lot about him and the way he does business. I have had emails with him in the past and seems to be a very straight up guy.
Jim/Owner
Rapid Repair
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 30, 2012 15:14:59 GMT -6
Update
Here is the information I got today from Ice Bear.
The owner did get to ride one of the modified Magnums and said the ride is better and the vibration has been cut down quite a bit. However, Because of being a single cylinder engine there is still going to be a vibration at an idle. That is just the nature of the beast.
1. The frame design is different. It's more complicated than before, 2-3 times more complicated. The purpose is to minimum vibration.
2. They added more cushion on the bike. But he didn't specify where. Assuming the seat.
3. They used the dual exhaust system. According to them, it helped greatly with the vibration. However, we're confirming on our end to see if EPA is going to be ok with this design change. This is a working one into two design, not a "Dummy" dual exhaust.
The next shipment of 300cc will be the Magnums. I don't have the ETA yet. Manufacturer needs more time to upgrade the Tornado and Compeller.
Still do not know if there will be a price increase either. Plus the EPA has to approve the exhaust design.
More as it becomes available.
Jim/Owner
Rapid Repair
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 30, 2012 18:32:48 GMT -6
gee I wonder if they will have fuel injection and or HID head lamps .
John
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Post by alleyoop on Apr 30, 2012 19:22:09 GMT -6
I doubt it, I think they are just putting in rubber bumpers and or rubber softer bushings or something to get the rear swingarm to not rattle around so much and absorb the movement.
They should break up the rear covering but I bet they have so many made up ready to bepainted that they are not about to retool to form seperate rear pieces and design different holders.
Alleyoop
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Post by rapidjim on May 1, 2012 7:30:41 GMT -6
I doubt it, I think they are just putting in rubber bumpers and or rubber softer bushings or something to get the rear swingarm to not rattle around so much and absorb the movement. They should break up the rear covering but I bet they have so many made up ready to bepainted that they are not about to retool to form seperate rear pieces and design different holders. Alleyoop From the way my rep was talking it is more than just rubber bushings. We will see. Jim |
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Post by JR on Jun 27, 2012 14:37:06 GMT -6
I just seen this folks:
Update!
The EPA has passed the new upgraded Magnum!
Ice Bear (China) is now in the process of getting and installing the Emission Data Plates and Safety Data Plates.
ETA to the US is still middle of July.
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Post by rapidjim on Jun 28, 2012 7:00:05 GMT -6
Yeppers, hopefully it will be by the middle of July.
Jim
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Post by rapidjim on Jul 6, 2012 10:11:47 GMT -6
Update:
There is a container of Magnums coming in the end of July. Pre orders are being taken however there are only 3 Silver and 6 Black left from the container coming in.
Jim
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Post by rapidjim on Jul 14, 2012 20:00:57 GMT -6
Okay here we go. Ice Bear sent me an advanced copy of an excel sheet of some of the changes that were made to the Magnums. This information is not on their web site yet but, gives some info and pictures of what is going on. The pictures are not the greatest, they were taken off an excell spreadsheet and converter to a jpeg. Better than nothing LOL. The reasoning is Ice Bear's not mine, except where noted. Suspension 2011: Independent Suspension 2012: Solid Axle Independent suspension might cause the rear bridge to loosen. New suspension system increases the stability. 2011  2012  My comments, where the independent rear suspension was an improvement over the original in 2010, they didn't change the swing arm like they did on this mod ( next set of pictures). From what I can see, there is an additional plate for the rear fender to mount too, that was there on the independent but, was not there on the 2010 models. You will also see the rear swing arm has been completely changed. Rear Swing Arm 2011: Single bracket swing arm 25012: Dual bracket swing arm The Dual bracket swing arm design allows 2 additional cushions. One between the rear swing arm and the main frame; the other between the rear swing arm and the engine. Cushion between swing arm & main frame  Cushion between swing arm & engine ---1  Cushion between swing arm & engine---2  My comments: With the addition of the "cushions" I would think that engine to frame vibration will be decreased as well as providing a more solid mounting system for the engine. Exhaust System 2011: Single Exhaust System 2012: Dual Exhaust System Reduce the possibility of exhaust breaking issue. Increase weight balance and stability. 2011  2012   My Comments: I like the look of the dual exhaust mufflers and the way they are mounted. Looks better than that ugly muffler they used before. Hopefully the chrome is better than some of the chrome mufflers I have seen. This style system would allow changing the mufflers to a Harley Style Shortie muffler like what was used on a customers Road Warrior that I did a post on earlier. I also feel the exhaust will move faster out of the engine which will help with how the motor breathes. Balancer 2011: No balancer 2012: Balancer inside the frame Resolve issue of front end wobbling.  My comments: They call it a balancer but more like a steering damper that the "big" trikes use to stop "tank Slap". Honda Gold Wing Trikes had a problem with this at around 30MPH. Some of the Harley Trikes had this also especially with extended or raked front ends. Loose triple tree bearings can also cause this. I think this is a great mod since any rear wobble will be felt in the handle bars and this should eliminate that. The tank slap was more so in the 2010s than in the 2011s. Side Panel 2011: No side cover 2012: Add side cover Cosmetic change 2011  2012  My Comments: Ice Bear calls this a cosmetic change but, by extending the side panels like this, it will also add more support to the sides. This should help with side cracks. As I said in the beginning, this is advanced information that has not been finalized or published on their site yet. It was sent to me for my comments and there may be more to come. If so I will post it. Jim/Owner Rapid Repair |
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 14, 2012 21:55:09 GMT -6
VERY NICE, I also like the way the did the mufflers , if they blow out or whatever the SuperTrapps will fit really nice now that they are Slip ons. Alleyoop  |
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 3, 2012 7:14:14 GMT -6
Update:
I got a call from one of my customers yesterday that just got his new modded 2012 Magnum. He is quite happy! He ordered it with the PDI done ( By Ice Bear Ca.) Arrived with no issues or shipping damage. Once they got it off the truck and out of the custom made crate, it fired right up. The only thing he has to do is install the mirrors, Ice Bear learned the hard way not to install the mirrors for shipping.
He told me that it ran down the road very smoothly and did not notice any vibration except he does have a bit of a trunk rattle. He said that the steering felt great and did not notice any "tank slap" at all, even from a dead stop. He did not ride it too much due to the fact he needs to get it registered first.
I do have one coming from the next shipment in September, so I will be able to see first hand.
More info as it becomes available.
Jim/Owner
Rapid Repair
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