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Post by ellpee on Jan 12, 2018 9:05:58 GMT -6
Okay, but an actual "choke" does the opposite of what an enricher does, right? Reduces air rather than increasing gas? If so, what does it connect to on the carb to accomplish that? And what becomes of the enricher then -- just left in place but unplugged?
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Post by cyborg on Jan 15, 2018 7:50:49 GMT -6
The "chokes " I'm familiar with replace the enrichner as a whole,,it's a direct "bolt on" replacement for the unit and screws directly on the carb,,,there was a slew of complaints about chokes on scooters for a number of months,,,never heard from the owners that went manual,,,alleyoop swore by his,,he had /has a extensively modified trike and had very little trouble with it,,,and yes you are correct instead of restricting air flow it just adds fuel as needed till the engine warms up then you shut it off,,
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Post by ellpee on Jan 15, 2018 9:22:00 GMT -6
Ah so. So in the context of a scooter and a scooter carb and how it works, a manual "choke" is really an "anti-choke," using the enricher port to add a little more gas on startup, and the human in the seat decides when to turn it off instead of the electrical wax heater thing. Got it. Waiting for new fuel pump at the moment, hoping it will start right up and run smoothly once that's installed. PITA to get at it, but what isn't on most scooters?
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Post by cyborg on Jan 17, 2018 8:43:17 GMT -6
You are correct sir on all counts
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Post by ellpee on Jan 22, 2018 9:15:14 GMT -6
New fuel pump received and installed, Magnum has so far started three times and runs smoothly. Tweaked around on the mixture and idle screws, looking good. Hoping I can call this one solved at long last.
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Post by cyborg on Jan 23, 2018 8:59:44 GMT -6
HAPPY DAY!!!!!!! Man that was painful,,,you gotta order at least one more and keep it on board ,,,,you know "just in case"
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Post by ellpee on Jan 23, 2018 9:52:56 GMT -6
Yes, it was a weeks-long source of frustration, glad to have finally figured it out, and will know to check that possibility if it happens again in future.
Funny story about Chinese quality: in reassembling everything I noticed the rear half of the seat was loose and tried to tighten it, but couldn't get it good and tight. So I removed it, and found that the two bolts holding it in place were entirely different. Same 14mm size, but different lengths, one stainless steel and one not, and the hardware between bolt and nut -- washers, bushings, etc. -- was both different and crude. The bolts go through two 3/4" holes in the plastic, so some kind of sleeve is needed to keep them centered. One side had two ordinary washers of different sizes, so the bolt was just slopping around in that big hole; the other side had a brass bushing with a couple O rings added to try to get it to fit the hole, but it was at best a poor fit. A visit to the little drawers at Ace got me a collection of stuff that served the purpose much better, seat is back on and nice and tight, but my impression was that at the end of the Chinese assembly line, some doofus discovered he was out of the right parts and just made something up out of whatever scraps were still lying around. I suppose that could happen with any brand of scooter, but it's just another entry on things I've found wrong with this Magnum since I bought it.
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Post by cyborg on Jan 24, 2018 8:22:26 GMT -6
I gotta tell you people were howling about the build quality and fit and finish and quality of parts in general on the Stella I bought,,,none of it true,,the only issues I've run into was a glass tube type fuse holder that went intermittent in the first week (changed to a blade style holder) (thank you very much oreilly) for about $4 and the natural seals and rubber are starting to crack,,and the low beam headlite filament blew out after a year and it was real low watt ,,,changed it with a car bulb and it's been clear sailing ever since,,,
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