15 gram sliders in a Linhia 257cc (260) By 4950cycle (Read 1,266 times)

[4950cycle]

Well, I gave it a run test and it only gained about a 1-2 mile per hour. And I lost a pinch of my Jack rabbit start / Hole shot ability. Now it gets up to about 10 MPH before it starts really scooting. Don't get me wrong, It's still plenty acceptable on take off. But it really used to jack rabbit out of the hole before. But, Just remember this was the very first test run. And it never attained 6500 rpm where my max HP is. For some reason I couldn't get it to climb above 6000 rpm at top speed. Can't explain this yet since I actually lightened my rollers which should have made me run higher RPM across the board. I did booger the rollers up a bit when I drilled those 4 I drilled. Maybe they are fouling up a bit trying to very my variator. So, Now I'll have to order those 12 gram sliders I had my eye on to see if that will make it all work ? PS I bet it would FLY LOW with somebody 170 lbs or less on it though right now. Remember I'm 274 lbs. and a head into the wind now.

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[4950cycle]

Scooter quit. Waiting for my CDI from Calif. . The one I bought from Miami didn't work. I received my 12 gram sliders I ordered off Ebay. No Hurry to install them yet since it won't run right now. But very soon !

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[4950cycle]

Its running fine now. The 12 gram DP style sliders are 2 grams per slider less than my stock rollers were. But instead of increasing RPM per speed / mph my RPM decreased ? I was going 67-68 mph with my old 14 gram "rollers" with 6600-6800 rpm . Now with 12 gram "sliders" at 67 mph I'm only revving 6000 RPM ? Thats 500 rpm below my peak HP @ 6500 rpm. I am going to experiment with putting 4 rollers in at 13 grams (I drilled them to 13 grams) each mixed with 4 of my 12 gram sliders tomorrow just to see if I can get the best of both worlds ? If I don't gain any RPM I'm prepared to drill one more gram out of my 4 rollers that are 13 grams now.

[ellpee]

Seems to me you're just going to get the performance of one or the other, as the ?lighter? ones are going to roll up the ramp first and start moving the front pulley, and the other ones will lag behind a bit. But I'm no expert, just using common logic. Have to say, you're putting a lot of time and effort into squeezing out and extra mph or two when you're already going close to the Interstate speed limit. Not to mention the wear and tear on the engine when you run it at absolute top end. Just my conservative opinion.

[4950cycle]

Sept 17, 2016 23:54:01 GMT -6 4950cycle said:

My idea worked on the variator. I worked on it late yesterday afternoon and today. Finally by nightfall tonight I got the modded variator back on the JCL 250 up and running. Well... up and running on the center stand anyway. I wanted to do a static test first to see what the variator was doing and at what RPM. I got my belt all the way out now at about 6600 RPMs I believe. It was getting dark so I didn't see so good even with a drop light. I will redo it tomorrow. I drilled out 1/2 of the 14 gram rollers down to 12 grams. so I have an average of about 13 gram rollers. Truthfully I don't even need sliders now since I'm getting full range with these old beat up drilled out rollers. But I will still buy a set just to complete my refurbishing the variator dealy. The real test is will the belt go all the way out on the variator with my 264 lbs. butt on it. That will be tomorrow to see if I can get any more top end out of it.

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[/quotJCL MP250A Lihai 257cc powered / This is how it all ended up here. This info is not for a 50cc-150cc scooter. They are a different animal in some ways to the Yamaha 250 / Linhia powered scoots. I have come to the conclusion that my 257cc Linhia will not go any faster on the top end without a meaningful power upgrade. Like a "real" 295 cc (300) cylinder / piston change plus maybe a little upjetting ? It just dosn't have the torque in its present form to go any faster than 68 mph with my 270 lbs , head right up in the wind resistance situation. I don't care what I do to my variator it just can not change this fact. But I have learned a lot about what works and what is a waste of time. #1 Forget about a bigger or a performance carburator if you don't improve your flow in some meaningful way ie: porting your head and exchange some torque for HP , And get an open / noisy exhaust and and lets not forget a performance pod style airfilter, also more noise. Yes , your intake makes noticable noise with no airbox. " It will sound faster " with just a pod airfilter and a more free flowing exhaust, But in reallity the numberes will change no more than slieghtly if at all. But if you are young and like to be noticed this may have some value. #2 Variator changes gave" ME " (big and heavy) no more top speed. But if a rider is much lighter than 270 lbs. this is what you want to do. #1 On the variator improvment, Shorten your variator boss by 1 1/2 mm do not exeed 2 1/2 mm shorter than stock or your belt will almost climb off your variator at top speed. This will allow your variator to reach its full out high gear. In stock form they stop short of this. #2 on the variator improvement, Exchange your 14 gram rollers for 11 gram "sliders" This will give you everything this motor can offer (with the boss mod too) IMO. I have four 12 gram sliders and four 11 gram sliders. This is what I personally want because I am going to get more power in this engine in the near future. But number 2 will keep you in the higher RPM for maximum excelleration and number 1 will give you full top end capibillities. You CAN have the best of both worlds this way.

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