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Post by burrhead on Oct 6, 2015 9:49:14 GMT -6
Hey guys and gals.......its been a while since I have posted anything. I live in New Orleans and the summer here was brutal and too hot to scoot! But now that the fall has arrived along with Saints football games we took the scooter out for the first time in almost two months this past Sunday evening and I have an issue with my left brake. When I squeeze the brake lever I feel no resistance and there is zero braking action. I haven't had a chance to open the brake cylinder reservoir yet but I park the scooter in my garage and there is no brake fluid on the floor. Can any of you give me an idea of where I should start my investigation? Seems strange that all of a sudden I have no left brake! Thanks in advance.......Dave
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Post by fflintstone on Oct 6, 2015 13:10:47 GMT -6
Check the reservoir ,see if is empty--fill it and bleed the cylinder--should fix it unless the cable is broken or disconnected--or the cylinder is frozen up from non use--happens sometimes from infrequent use--good luck,fflintstone
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Post by burrhead on Oct 6, 2015 17:53:33 GMT -6
Checked the resovoir and it was full of nice clear fluid. It feels like a broken or disconnected cable......when I get done time I will have yo look in yo that. In the meantime where is the best place to buy a new cable? Thanks flinstone!
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Post by fflintstone on Oct 6, 2015 20:47:13 GMT -6
Parts can be bought right here from one of our vendors--JR can lead you in the right direction--I don't recommend paying high prices at any of the Roketa or other Chinese manufacturers ...our vendors will have it or can show where to find it --fflintstone
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Post by burrhead on Oct 7, 2015 8:56:11 GMT -6
OK.......I have hydraulic brakes front and rear....is there still a mechanical cable that could be at fault? Im looking at the Honda Helix shop manual Chapter 16 on hydraulic brakes and don't see any mechanical cables. Maybe just because I have a full reservoir of fluid I may need to still bleed the lines?
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Post by fflintstone on Oct 7, 2015 18:29:51 GMT -6
Just thinking about it some more--wheel cylinder could be stuck--it was sitting up for awhile--if you had the brake set ,then it may be stuck in that position-also,something connects the brake lever to the reservoir--and if you can,bleed them anyhow--some moisture may have gotten inside--just saying
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Post by burrhead on Oct 7, 2015 18:59:18 GMT -6
Thanks flinstone.....that's my plan.....I bought a large syringe and some tubing today at a local feed store......will try and bleed them by pushing fluid up from the caliper to the resovoir.....per the video.....
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Post by fflintstone on Oct 7, 2015 21:51:14 GMT -6
Ok--I don't know what that is supposed to do,but you are going to get air in the lines that way--the proper way to bleed brakes is to squeeze the brake lever and open the bleeder valve on the caliper at the same time and the lever should go completely closed,and then close the bleeder valve before releasing the brake lever--and do it again a couple of times--I don't know what that procedure is that you described--bleeding brakes is a 2 person job--one to squeeze the brake lever and the other to open the valve and let the old fluid squirt out under pressure -of course ,if your arms are long enough,you can possibly do it alone,but not comfortably...and if your brake lever is still acting like it is disconnected,you will need to find the cause before bleeding--on my car,my wife helps,she pumps the brake pedal 5 times and holds it down and I release the bleeder valve,the brake pedal goes to the floor,the fluid squirts out,she holds it down ,I close the valve,she releases the brake pedal---we do it another time and then she pumps it again and if it holds a firm pedal ,we are done--then add fluid to the reservoir,as needed--we been doing it that way for the last 60 years and it works just fine--happy trails,fflintstone
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Post by burrhead on Oct 8, 2015 6:57:22 GMT -6
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Post by fflintstone on Oct 8, 2015 11:54:44 GMT -6
I never have seen this method,and it looks like a good one--probably ,like the guy says,it is ideal for smaller vehicles and might even work on autos --we may have to study on that some--only problem is the hose--need to secure it on the nipple so it doesn't leak or seep air into the system--probably no problem there--good post--I learn something everyday--thanks ,burrhead--happy trails,fflintstone
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