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Post by imnts2 on Apr 15, 2012 4:56:19 GMT -6
I certainly do not want to second guess anyone's troubleshooting technique. I do understand that even a "simple" scoot is really surprisingly complicated. I also know that more times than not, it is very difficult to trouble shoot from long distance. Frankly, in a few minutes an experienced motor head can absorb more information about what is going on than can be learned from a long written description.
I also understand that most of the time it is hard to part with the money needed to build an adequate inventory of shop tools and diagnostic devices.
So people are trying to troubleshoot without a decent compression gauge or tachometer or sometimes even a VOM. We are trying to check spark by eye without a decent tester or trace an electrical problem without even a test light.
I think it is remarkable what we get done with such primitive resources. And we do it with volunteers, many who did not not know what a valve was a month or so ago.
Being a bit of a perfectionist, I tend to want to push people to do it my way (get the tools and be very systematic) so I am amazed how well different people get 'er done their own way. Often on a shoestring or less.
My bottom line is be delighted to be part of it when I can and to thank everyone for their part in reminding me of the wonderful human spirit that keeps us all working to muddle through.
git 'er done - or at least give 'er h--- trying.
Cheers
lefty2
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Post by buford1488 on Apr 15, 2012 9:07:55 GMT -6
i just hold the plug.. been doing it like that since little kid. don't feel that bad..lol...
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Post by imnts2 on Apr 18, 2012 7:01:48 GMT -6
I do to. ha
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Post by buford1488 on Apr 18, 2012 9:05:39 GMT -6
atta boy!!!
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Post by JR on Apr 18, 2012 9:52:44 GMT -6
Lefty you have some very good and valid points and also one can see right up front that you like and enjoy helping people and that's what truly matters. Sometimes it is frustrating when people don't have the tools to work on their scooters but in most cases you find especially for the true non-mechanic who has bought a scooter and especially the ones who didn't know what they were getting into when they started they not only don't know what to do but don't know what they need to fix it either? That's why they turn to forums and sometimes ask questions that makes you think "man it's going to be hard to help this person" But IMO helping if you can is all that matters and give it your best and hope you help someone and also have a person who then can help others. But here's the kind of junk that gets me and it's threads like this; scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=49059Ah the old tired of the newbie questions and I forgot when I was a newbie once myself and I'm so smart that I just bought this scooter and looked at it and knew everything and now I'll look down on others. Makes me want to Don't want to help, don't like the newbie question, keep your trap shut and move on, it's that simple. I can assure you people will join, ask a question that's been asked no telling how many times and myself I'll answer it again and may even use another thread trying to do one thing, "just help". There won't be the "use google, links to other posts with no other response, no here is the tech section look for yourself" answers from me. I will use these tools when and if applicable but again only to help. I find the author of this thread tasteless, arrogant and himself not old enough to know much about anything even a scooter, it all comes out in his signature on his profile: scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=chromestarhustlerAt 464 posts he's so tired of the newbie stuff? Give me a break! JR
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