Turn lights on MC 54 250 By bobf (Read 670 times)

[bobf]

Front turn light is not working. How to replace the bulb.

I looked under the front cover and can see a black object that might allow me to take the bulb out the back of the socket area. But there is also a piece of metal blocking my ability to grab the housing very well. I see no other way to get to the bulb to see what kind to buy or how to get it out. Is it necessary to remove the front plastics to get better access to the bulb? Would this be necessary for all the lights on the front part of the scoot?
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[ellpee]

Speaking as one who has trashed his left turn signal twice already: the turn signal unit can be removed by removing some screws underneath the front plastic panel, plus there are some of those plastic slot clips to deal with. The turn signal unit is one part and includes, the bulb, socket, clear cover and wiring, the decorative cover matching the color of the scooter is a separate part. Both outrageously expensive, in my opinion, BTW, but your problem is only a bulb, so not a concern for you. Might be a good time to consider replacing standard bulbs with LEDs, though. Otherwise, the bulb is a pretty standard amber-colored 1157 best I can recall; don't have access to my scooter right now, but just went through this whole bulb thing a few weeks ago.

Oh, and you can also get at the front running lights, those little jobbies next to the headlights, without removing plastic, just reach up underneath and grab the back of socket, twist it a quarter turn or so, and you've got it. Headlights, whole nother subject -- never done it, hope I never have to.

[bobf]

Thanks for your reply ellpee. Still confused as by your response it sounds like you have removed your main front panel to get into the lighting stuff. So for me to change this one bulb I must remove the front cover and not try to remove the bulb till then? More effort than I had wanted to do, but will if that is the only way to go.

I have no interest in LED lamps as I never drive at night and daytime not often enough to put lots effort or money into the scooter.
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[bobf]

OK, near to finishing putting it all back together. One more screw to hold the outer silver cover over the lens, then put the front panel on over the windshield and it will be all done.

Problem fixed. First had to take out and put the lamp assembly back together properly. The lamp socket part had slipped out of the reflector part so I could not easily turn the lamp to get it out. Then I saw that the cable was disconnected from the harness under the scoot body above the wheel.

So I worked in the blind with my shorty Phillips screwdriver to remove the outer cover. Then found the clear part had a screw covered by the outer cover. Then removed three screws that held the lamp housing to the body. Now with the lamp housing and cable free I could once again get the lamp housing back into the reflector part properly and install the lamp. Then following reverse sequence and again working blind, I was able to get all back on the scoot. Very tiring for my old back and very frustrating to have to work in the blind. But certainly a lot quicker and easier that stripping the front end to try to find or fix something.

As soon as I had reset the lamp housing and installed the bulb I did a light test. It worked fine. So then I started the replacement process.
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[alleyoop]

Dec 5, 2013 15:51:08 GMT -6 bobf said:

Front turn light is not working. How to replace the bulb.

I looked under the front cover and can see a black object that might allow me to take the bulb out the back of the socket area. But there is also a piece of metal blocking my ability to grab the housing very well. I see no other way to get to the bulb to see what kind to buy or how to get it out. Is it necessary to remove the front plastics to get better access to the bulb? Would this be necessary for all the lights on the front part of the scoot?
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Yes my Trike is the same way, That piece of metal bracket has TWO screws holding it on. Take one of the screws out and loosen the other so you can swing the metal piece to one side so you can take the Bulb out. Take the 1 screw out from the position it is easier for you to get at and just loosen the other a little.
Alleyoop

[bobf]

Thanks Allyoop. Next time I will try that way. I tried to back my socket and bulb out but the bulb was too large, I think. Maybe it is the bar blocking the move up and out, not the bulb.

I have it all fixed now and hope I last for a long time before having to do that again.

It appears that I missed the problem as it has turned out to be the slip connector above the front wheel was not connected. Did not see that till I had gone a long way on removal. I need to do a more basic check before tearbdown again.
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[alleyoop]

That metal bracket does not allow the bulb SOCKET enough room so you can pull it out. I tried any number of ways because I did not BELIEVE they would put a metal piece in that spot and block you from pulling the socket out with the bulb. ANOTHER FANTASTIC CHINA DESIGN(HAHA).
Alleyoop

[ellpee]

Dec 6, 2013 14:14:28 GMT -6 bobf said:

OK, near to finishing putting it all back together. One more screw to hold the outer silver cover over the lens, then put the front panel on over the windshield and it will be all done.

Problem fixed. First had to take out and put the lamp assembly back together properly. The lamp socket part had slipped out of the reflector part so I could not easily turn the lamp to get it out. Then I saw that the cable was disconnected from the harness under the scoot body above the wheel.

So I worked in the blind with my shorty Phillips screwdriver to remove the outer cover. Then found the clear part had a screw covered by the outer cover. Then removed three screws that held the lamp housing to the body. Now with the lamp housing and cable free I could once again get the lamp housing back into the reflector part properly and install the lamp. Then following reverse sequence and again working blind, I was able to get all back on the scoot. Very tiring for my old back and very frustrating to have to work in the blind. But certainly a lot quicker and easier that stripping the front end to try to find or fix something.

As soon as I had reset the lamp housing and installed the bulb I did a light test. It worked fine. So then I started the replacement process.
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I take it from this post that you did figure out that the turn signal "bump" can be removed without pulling off the entire front plastic panel. Don't ever dump your scoot, I've learned that those two crummy pieces of plastic (turn signal unit and decorative cover) cost about $80 from Roketa with shipping, and if there's a cheaper source I haven't found it yet.

[bobf]

Yep ellpee, I took the hard way to learn by just going after things as I saw them. Next time I will check the wiring connections first and then if necessary, take the path allyoop suggested of removing the metal bar inside and then would be able to pull the lamp out and not need to take off the turn light 'bump'.
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[ellpee]

Dec 7, 2013 11:36:42 GMT -6 bobf said:

Yep ellpee, I took the hard way to learn by just going after things as I saw them. Next time I will check the wiring connections first and then if necessary, take the path allyoop suggested of removing the metal bar inside and then would be able to pull the lamp out and not need to take off the turn light 'bump'.
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True dat. In my case, my knowledge comes from having crunched the bump twice, and therefore having to remove it anyhow.