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Post by davidstipek on Jul 21, 2013 8:32:36 GMT -6
Professor I have switched engine from Yamaha to Suzuki, I now have electric start and rear suspension added to custom build  I have no issues at all with engine runs perfectly!! Engine can from a Suzuki Crystal RC110cm I NEVER HAD FRAME, just engine and complete harness, relays, coils, rectifier...) I need Gear Ratio Informatiom, ratios and eeth per gear... Primary Ratio Transmission(1-4) Ratios and gears Final Ratio ( I know these as I have drive gear: 14T (428). At mall I found a Crystal and asked Owner If I could look at her Rear Sprocket.... She answered is that all?  So driven Gear is 35T (428) Cannot find here as Suzuki Thailand Customer Service say they do not have manuals... I tried Filopines Suzuki Customer Service, they said it was a very popular bike there even today... But Sorry they did not give that Information to Public...  ? What's up with this??? Can you help?? David Read more: thescooterprofessor.freemessageboards.com/thread/2510/help-suzuki-info#ixzz2Zgq2TYdAAttachments:
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Post by JR on Jul 21, 2013 18:28:41 GMT -6
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Post by davidstipek on Jul 23, 2013 3:01:40 GMT -6
JR
Thanks, I have seen those, the first is a Suzuki 110 4 cycle with oil filter. Ratos are not close (as I will explain) 2nd is probably okay for basic service but again for a 4 cycle engine...
I went to large Motorcycle Parts House here in Chiang Mai, I sked if they had a Suzuki Crystal RC110CM Parts Manual they had a RC110D (Crystal). Together we searched the parts until we found pages with gearing this is what I came away with...
Primary Gear, Drive: NT20, Driven: NT65
Transmission
1st Drive: ?
Driven: NT33
2nd Drive: NT14
Driven:?
3rd Drive: NT21
Driven: NT24
4th Drive: NT20
Driven: NT19
also these to gear related items: Driveshaft: NT24, also Countershaft: NT10
I am not sure which pertains to 1st or 2nd gear as Drive or Driven gears, but these two seem to fill void as to missing information.
As you can see these are not even close to Informtion in Manual for 4 Cycle 110cc engine you sent me. (Ihad that ifo before and tried to use... seemed to make engine sluggish as I had placed my final gearing way off...
I also found that final gearing is 14T/35T ..... I had tried to set up 16T/37T.... didn't work.
Thanks for trying...
David
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Post by davidstipek on Aug 7, 2013 4:29:30 GMT -6
JR Thanks, I have seen those, the first is a Suzuki 110 4 cycle with oil filter. Ratos are not close (as I will explain) 2nd is probably okay for basic service but again for a 4 cycle engine... I went to large Motorcycle Parts House here in Chiang Mai, I sked if they had a Suzuki Crystal RC110CM Parts Manual they had a RC110D (Crystal). Together we searched the parts until we found pages with gearing this is what I came away with... Primary Gear, Drive: NT20, Driven: NT65 Transmission 1st Drive: ? Driven: NT33 2nd Drive: NT14 Driven:? 3rd Drive: NT21 Driven: NT24 4th Drive: NT20 Driven: NT19 also these to gear related items: Driveshaft: NT24, also Countershaft: NT10 I am not sure which pertains to 1st or 2nd gear as Drive or Driven gears, but these two seem to fill void as to missing information. As you can see these are not even close to Informtion in Manual for 4 Cycle 110cc engine you sent me. (Ihad that ifo before and tried to use... seemed to make engine sluggish as I had placed my final gearing way off... I also found that final gearing is 14T/35T ..... I had tried to set up 16T/37T.... didn't work. Thanks for trying... David JR I went to Parts Supplier and found they had most Manuals for Parts Varifications. Here I got all Ratios and NT on all gears and Sprockets. So I just wanted to thank you for your responce, even though it didn't help, Service Manual did! Now I have further question. Since this engine does not have an option for cable tach connection. How do I wire in a Electronic Tach. I have one that has 3 wire connections: Black/Orange Stripe Yellow/Green Stripe and a Ground Coil has internal CDI it has 3 wire connections: Input: Black/White Black/Red Can't seem to be able to attach two files... David [/quote] Attachments:
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Post by JR on Aug 7, 2013 14:43:11 GMT -6
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Post by davidstipek on Aug 8, 2013 2:16:05 GMT -6
[replyingto=admin]JR[/replyingto]Jr I understand your post, and the wiring diagram. here is a copy of Suzuki Crystals Ciol/CDI (internal) wiring. Maybe this will not make any difference... Maybe I need to use a newer CDI. One that has a tach outlet dedicated to the tach only David (file I tried to send you is between 2025 and 2075... to large so I did a clip and save of item of interest) Attachments:
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Post by JR on Aug 8, 2013 16:17:27 GMT -6
My thought is you need to find which wire on the CDI is the pulse or pick up coil wire and tie the tach into that feed. I have a tinytac and it gets the signal by wrapping a wire around the sparkplug wire and it picks up then signal to tell the tach the RPM by this method.
Again we know the tach will have a 12Vdc hot and ground plus a signal feed wire and that will be very small voltage.
JR
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Post by alleyoop on Oct 6, 2013 15:20:07 GMT -6
I believe yours is a TCI setup, check the two wires going to the unit. One of the wires should be 12V so hook up the TACH to the other wire which is the TRIGGER from the stator, or you can follow the wires and find out which one is coming from the stator and that is the wire you want to hook up the tach to.
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