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Post by krylon80 on Oct 22, 2013 20:52:39 GMT -6
thanks kz1000st,
as it turns out the Zuma was stolen. i ran the VIN. bummer. i think i'm gonna go with the Roughhouse.
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 22, 2013 13:51:15 GMT -6
Just read that if you want solid acceleration or are riding 2-up on a 50cc, you really want a 2 stroke. Looks like that eliminates the Zuma (at least the 2013 model I found). I would need to find a pre-2012 to get a 2 stroke.
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 22, 2013 12:27:20 GMT -6
I test rode the Roughhouse R50, Lance (SYM) PCH50 and the SYM Jet 50 Evo this morning. The PCH50 is definitely a step down from the other two in terms of build quality, bells & whistles and pickup, and the price reflects that ($1,500 vs $2,000). It's also the only 4-stroke of the bunch and the most expensive to derestrict. Between the Roughhouse R50 and the SYM Jet 50 Evo (both I confirmed were made in Taiwan, not China), I'm leaning towards the Roughhouse. The salesman told me it'll ultimately have more power off the line and a higher top speed once derestricted (really only a concern for some expected 2-up riding), plus there were multiple smaller characteristics that I liked better (bigger seat for 2-up, gas tank up high instead of down low, etc).
Generally speaking, how does the RH rate in terms of modding? Like if I wanted to install a BBK, for example. What about general reliability, availability and price of replacement parts, etc?
I am still considering the used Zuma 50 (2013 4-stroke) just because I've heard it's a better bike overall than most of these others I've been testing which are a bit cheaper and not made in Japan. But I've also heard that now the Zuma isn't even made in Japan (or at least certain models aren't). Is this accurate? How would you compare a Zuma 50F to the RH (both unrestricted) in terms of general quality and performance?
Also, I can test drive a Tomos Twister 50 on Saturday, but it's a little out of my way. If it is a significant downgrade from either the RH or the Zuma, I don't think I'll be happy with it. Should I even bother?
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 22, 2013 12:24:38 GMT -6
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 21, 2013 20:21:31 GMT -6
OK, I feel like I've been doing nothing but reading about this stuff for the past few days now.  Based on what's available from dealers in my area and what I've read and been told, I've made some decisions about what I'm looking to get and some models I'm considering (but I am still open to suggestions given it fits my criteria). I'm getting a 50cc. I intend to mod it so I'd need a scooter that can be modded fairly easily (i.e. availability and cost of mod parts). I'm not interested in getting a Chinese brand. I will consider non-Chinese brands that sometimes partner with Chinese manufacturers if they have a good reputation (i.e. Sym, PGO). I'm only interested in modern-styled scooters (that means no buddys, stellas, lance classics, vespas, vinos etc). The scooter has to have a weight capacity of at least 300lb. 12"+ wheel(s) a bonus, but not absolutely necessary. There has to be enough under-seat storage for at least a 3/4-full face helmet and a chain+lock. Has to be $2k MSRP or less. (my budget is more like $1,500 tops, but I think I can talk the price down a bit from MSRP, paying cash) I'll consider buying a used scooter from the owner if it's a reliable brand (Yamaha, Honda, etc). Here are the models I've been looking at so far. Thoughts? Aprilia SR Motard 50 Aprilia Sportcity 50 Genuine Roughhouse R50/PGO PMX Sport 50 Hyosung Sense SD50 Hyosung Rally SF50R Hyosung Prima SF50B Lance (SYM) PCH 50 SYM Jet EuroX/SYM Jet 50 Evo (these seem like the same bike with two names) Tomos Twister 50 Yamaha Zuma 50F (2013 $1,000 used 300mi) |
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 21, 2013 12:27:52 GMT -6
Check back in and let us know what you did, inquiring minds want to know. Will do. I actually have a follow-up post that I'll make in a few, but I'm getting closer to making a decision. One thing I have to do now is research the laws on riding 2 up on a 50cc in MA. |
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 20, 2013 13:50:03 GMT -6
Thanks for the advice, guys! I'll check out those models/websites.
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Post by krylon80 on Oct 19, 2013 9:59:39 GMT -6
Hey All,
I'm new to the world of scooters and this forum and I was hoping there were some out there who could help a guy out with some advice. My girlfriend and I live in Boston and after not having any motorized vehicles for years, we're contemplating getting a scooter.
The Massachusetts Department of Transportation (MassDOT) has created two vehicle classes for scooters: up to 50cc engine, up to 30mph top speed="Moped"; over 50cc, over 30mph="Limited Use Vehicle (LUV)".
Many people prefer to get Moped-classified scooters because you don't have to pay for insurance, license plates, titles or inspections, and you can ride in bicycle lanes. An LUV-classified scooter requires all of this and you cannot ride in bicycle lanes.
We would prefer a Moped-classified scooter as we'd rather not deal with any of the additional bureaucracy or costs of operating an LUV-classified scooter. Our concern is that while most of the time there will be one rider, we would like to get a scooter that could also accommodate two riders and we weren't sure if there are any 50cc scooters that were capable. We are both smaller than average, mind you (I'm 5'8" 150lbs, she's 5'0" 120lbs).
Thanks!
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