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Post by xscottiex on Mar 4, 2013 5:01:36 GMT -6
Sorry mate, ok here is a report:
Gas did come out of the drain hose so i will open the bowl tomorrow and clean the jets like in your instructions.
I will update you to how i go
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 4, 2013 1:03:51 GMT -6
l have a spare carby if needed in brisbane too mate thats fantastic ill keep trouble shooting for now, but i might have to hit you up on that offer soon if i cant figure this out. ill keep you updated, once again thanks for the offer very awesome of you. |
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 4, 2013 0:50:31 GMT -6
Ok yes i turned it back and it didnt start so i put 1 teaspoon of petrol into the vacuum pipe and it started then died.
So this means its not sucking fuel from the bowl? What am i looking for when i look for the drain screw? i found the drain hose i think but how do i open it up?
thanks again for your help, this is fantastic we are making progress.
-scott
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 4, 2013 0:25:41 GMT -6
hey ally, could this be the problem:   should i put some gafer tape over that hole and try start it? -scott |
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 4, 2013 0:14:07 GMT -6
Mate Thanks!! She fired over when i put some fuel in vacuume line and she ideled for a few seconds and then died... this is the best i have got in weeks !! So now we know the fuel isnt being sucked in? so now i check compression by taking out spark plug , and putting my finger in the hole where spark plug goes into the engine, then turning it over and feeling what happens?? Edit: strange thing, the big part on the carb that attaches to one side where the vacuum pipe comes from is kinda lifeted and moved over to the side, there seems to be a couple ml gap where the seal has lifted up, could this be a problem? ill get a pic of it now. can i ask you if these are safe to do? a guy is telling me to do some stuff to scooter but it sounds dangerous so i wanna check with you first. thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=chineseclassroom&thread=2418&page=1 |
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 3, 2013 23:51:30 GMT -6
No that is fine THOSE ARE MY TEST INSTRUCTIONS(HAHA). Nothing will happend but what we are doing is putting a little gas right down the intake JUST AS IF IT SUCKED FUEL IN byitself. To test compression and see if it is descent enough for the motor to run TAKE THE SPARK PLUG OUT and STICK YOU FINGER in the hold and hold it FIRMLY. THEN OPEN THE THROTTLE WIDE OPEN AND HOLD IT WHILE YOU CRANK IT. If it blows your finger off the hole it has enough compression for to start and run. If it doesn't then you have a problem. Alleyoop P.S if you live in COLDER CLIMATE NOT FLORIDA 20w50 is to heavy, put in 10w40 oil year round cold or hot. 20w50 will turn like honey in cold weather. Thanks for the replay mate, i live in QLD Australia, very hot here  I will try the carb test and compresion test now and get back to you, may i just confirm i poor a teaspoon of fuel into the pipe that i suck on to get the pitcock working? that is the vacume pipe yes? With second test i stick my finger into the spot where the plug goes and if it blows my finger off its all good? sorry just want to confirm i dont wanna hurt myself haha, new to this. Thanks in advance for your help. -scott |
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 3, 2013 23:49:14 GMT -6
ok you said you have spark was that holding the plug to the motor or frame ? you have fuel getting to the carb have you cleaned the carb the are many tiny ports that have to be clear or you will not get fuel into the motor when you check the plug was it wet or dry I had the plug plugged into lead and then sat it on the metal body of the motor and then turned it over and there was a spark, it wasnt wet but it did have some black stuff on it. So best way to clean carb is with some carb spray? |
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Post by xscottiex on Mar 3, 2013 23:09:34 GMT -6
Greetings guys, I have checked over the threads and played for over a week now, i figure its time i post this problem is much the same as everyone elses but i have done everything i can. My scooter wont start, it was working fine then i stored it away for 6months now it wont start. I have changes the fuel filter and i have drained the tank and put new fuel in, i have also changed spark plug and changed battery and drained oil and put new oil in (20w - 50 .. is that to think??) It sounds like it trys to click over but it just wont, it will not kick start or electric start. From my own trouble shooting i think i have a compression problem, for if i take the line from the petcock that runs into carb and put it into a jar only tiny drips of fuel come out when i start / or kick start, only the tiniest drops... But if i take the vacuum line from the pitcock and suck on it lots of fuel pours out... So i figured i would bypass pitcock with a gravity fed line but still no luck, even if i pour fuel into the line there is no luck starting it  (EDIT: ignore that, now it seems to shoot out when i kick it.... fuel that is) What could this problem be? Im sure its compression problem but i bypassed the pitcock and expected it to work, no avail This is driving me nuts i just cant figure it out.... I have checked spark plug gets spark and it does, and starter kicks over so im sure its not solenoid problem, im positive its a fuel or compression problem... where to from here lads? -scott edit: i must add that when i go to kick it , it feels very week, but my mate said 50cc's normally do feel weak when you kick them and he said he can feel compression in the kick start.... now im even more confused. edit: i checked line going from pitcock to carb and its not blocked... So maybe its a carb problem? edit: ok im going to try the carb tests now... like below: CHECK CARB:
First turn the Fuel Ratio Screw Clockwise until it stops and then turn it out Counter Clockwise 2 ½ turns
And try to start it.
A. If it does not want to start get a paper cup and put in about teaspoon of gas. Take the Vacuum hose off the Intake Manifold squeeze the paper cup and make a point and pour the little bit of gas straight into the Vacuum hose and connect the hose back onto the intake manifold. Now try to start it.
a. If it attempts to start or start and die now we know gas is not being sucked out from the carb bowl
can anyone tell me is that dangerous i mean if i pour fuel into the vacuum house that sounds like its going to mess things up 0_o, if i get the go ahead ill try that test but im a bit paranoid about it.... |
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