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Post by thisismyname on Jan 29, 2016 12:29:53 GMT -6
Injection systems been completely removed I'd have to order a whole new one. Put some premixed in the tank, spark plugs good, the little gas valve switch thing set to on, kill switch on run, still won't start up. According to some of the things I've read I need three things to get it to start, gas spark and compression. Haven't done anything with compression so maybe that's the culprit?
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Post by JR on Jan 29, 2016 16:11:13 GMT -6
Injection systems been completely removed I'd have to order a whole new one. Put some premixed in the tank, spark plugs good, the little gas valve switch thing set to on, kill switch on run, still won't start up. According to some of the things I've read I need three things to get it to start, gas spark and compression. Haven't done anything with compression so maybe that's the culprit? Just thinking/looking at the spark plug isn't the way to know if it's good? When I say check for spark I mean pull the plug and do it like in these videos. Sparkplug can be good and the coil and or CDI be bad? Only way to know is to visually see the spark plug sparking with the engine being turned over. thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/thread/4167/electrical-check-spark-tester-methodThis is correct and if I was guessing on the premix I would say 50:1? As far as compression on a 2 stroke one can have bad rings or a bad reed valve. thescooterprofessor.proboards.com/thread/1353/carb-reed-valve-works-replaceOne simple way to test for engine compression is to pull the plug and put your thumb over the spark plug hole and turn the engine over. If it tries to blow your thumb off that's a good sign. JR |
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Post by thisismyname on Jan 29, 2016 17:04:12 GMT -6
Yeah we have some premixed 50:1 we use for our snowblower I put in there, the spark plug is good I tested it good blue spark, dad doesn't think it's the compression he thinks it's the carb.
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Post by JR on Jan 29, 2016 18:16:36 GMT -6
Good videos in the video section on cleaning it. Pull the plug and squirt a touch of gas in it and then put the plug back in and see if it'll even fire. a good blue spark also means we wired the key switch in right.
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Post by thisismyname on Jan 29, 2016 19:02:18 GMT -6
Can u give me the link I can't find the video section. All I see on the subject is a small paragraph on pg. 23 of the manual.
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Post by JR on Jan 30, 2016 5:20:29 GMT -6
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Post by cyborg on Jan 30, 2016 9:18:59 GMT -6
Jr is on this one ,,,if the spark and compression are good a little teaspoon of fuel down the spark plug hole reinstall plug and she should fire
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Post by thisismyname on Jan 30, 2016 14:43:36 GMT -6
Just tried the gas in the spark plug thing no dice
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Post by thisismyname on Jan 30, 2016 15:39:51 GMT -6
Actually used pyroil starting fluid and it sounds exactly the same, going to attempt to clean the carb tomorrow, dad says he's most concerned about re aligning the jets or something like that once we've got it cleaned says he had a gas leaf blower he tried to clean the carburetor and never got it working again.
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Post by JR on Jan 30, 2016 18:22:21 GMT -6
Again when you pull the carb inspect the reed valve. If it is the least letting compression go by it'll never run.
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Post by thisismyname on Jan 31, 2016 20:37:40 GMT -6
Took apart the carb and cleaned it, not terribly dirty but the main jet was clogged. When I put it back together and re installed it, gas started leaking out of this little brass valve on the underside of the carb not sure how to stop it.
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Post by thisismyname on Jan 31, 2016 21:04:54 GMT -6
Think it might have somethin to do with the float needle when I pulled the bowl off the needle just fell out
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Post by thisismyname on Feb 1, 2016 23:52:21 GMT -6
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Post by JR on Feb 2, 2016 11:04:25 GMT -6
One can pull it off and soak it in penetrating oil and then lube it if it starts moving again, Your best bet is to get a new one, but you can unhook the cable and leave the carb in the idle mode, it will not keep it from firing. Yes you need to find out why the needle is not sealing off and keeping the gas from overflowing the carb.
I still did not hear mention of you checking the reed valve?
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