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Post by billtrout on Dec 19, 2012 9:34:39 GMT -6
I was trying too fire up the scoot and it will start and run for about thirty seconds and then die. Can not give it gas iether. this has happened a few times even on a warm scooter. right now I'm thinking of replacing the carb but i can't find the exact carb PD24JD. the carb has what appears to be a vac line on the front just above the bowl.
Any Idea's?
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Bill
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 19, 2012 12:38:14 GMT -6
have you checked my photobucket yet ?
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Post by billtrout on Dec 19, 2012 16:25:20 GMT -6
The carb i saw did not match what i have. There is nipple on the front of my carb.
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 19, 2012 16:28:46 GMT -6
The PD24JD is just a 24mm carb made in china nothing special about, so any 24mm CVK carb will work just fine.
Was the scooter running before this happened or has the scooter been sitting for months without starting. If the motor has not run for 6 or so months the carb is all varnished up with dryed out gas and all you really need to do is clean the carb out and its passages or get a new carb. Also how many miles on it and when was the last time the motor had its valves adjusted.
Nothing major going on just a littel TLC and it will be up and running. We will tell you what to do if you need help with anything. I have pictures of many things to help you with parts of the carbs and what they do and whatever else you need. So us know what you want to do If you want to Clean the carb , just go to the auto parts store and get a SPRAY CAN OF CARB CLEANER, it comes with a LONG THIN STRAW to get into the carb passages to clean them out.
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 19, 2012 16:57:52 GMT -6
The carb i saw did not match what i have. There is nipple on the front of my carb. go through the photos the pics are all of the same carb there are several pics of the same carb . Could the nipple your talking about be on the intake manafold ? John |
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Post by billtrout on Dec 20, 2012 17:00:20 GMT -6
The bike has been running fine till about two weaks ago, it's has 1,300 miles on it.
I try and pick up some carb cleaner. And the nipple IS on the carb. The manifold has two vac lines it.
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 20, 2012 17:37:54 GMT -6
There are usually three nipples on a carb: 1. The fuel inlet nipple 2. The Carb Drain nipple 3. The Overflow Vent nipple high on the carb -- usually has a piece of hose that is about 2 inches long and CURVED down but that stays open. 4. IF the carb has a ACV valve this nipple is on the RIGHT side of the carb where the Throttle cable bracket is. Alleyoop Here is what your carb should look like: Left Side:  Right Side:  |
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Post by billtrout on Dec 20, 2012 18:38:23 GMT -6
That looks close, i do have that valve on the right, but it is just above the bowl. I have not found one to match it. Do i need it if not can i replace with a reguler carb as your showing?
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 20, 2012 19:29:59 GMT -6
Can you take a picture of your carb both sides? If you do not know how to put it on here you can email to me and I can put it up for you in this thread.
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I will pm you my email address if you want
In the meantime I will try and find a picture of your carbs VIEWS. I have already found one but they only show the AIR INTAKE view.
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Post by billtrout on Dec 21, 2012 11:42:07 GMT -6
I will pull the carb over the weakend. As too the valve's I have not touched them yet.
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 21, 2012 11:48:57 GMT -6
Is that extra nipple on the front of the carb on the right side where your throttle is and does it CURVE back? If so that is for a emission connection, is it open with no hose going to it?
You don't have to take the carb off just see if you can take a picture from either the top looking down over the carb and the hoses around so we can see what kind of emissions you have on the scoot.
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Post by billtrout on Dec 21, 2012 14:27:15 GMT -6
That nipple does indeed curve just a little and there is a line of some sorts going to it.
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 21, 2012 17:17:54 GMT -6
Cool, now follow the hose connected to it and see what it connects to on the other end.
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Post by billtrout on Dec 23, 2012 14:18:19 GMT -6
I got around too tracing that line, it goes to my canister. I tried starting it and watching the fuel filter. does not appear to have enuff vac too fill the filer. PM your email and i will send you the photo's.
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 23, 2012 15:54:09 GMT -6
Ok, now the canister probably has other hoses going and coming from some place.
So find out where they go and come from. It is an emission type carb it could be for gas fumes being feed back into the intake or from unburned fumes from the exhaust or it could be a vaccum line.
I pmed my email
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