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Post by robinord on Dec 10, 2012 21:15:57 GMT -6
I have a CF Moto EJewel 150 Very happy EXCEPT the battery never charges. Lots of trips to the charger. 3 batteries in two years. Is there a known distributer, CDI, or other problem such as the security setup I can vary to get the thing charging?
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Post by terrilee on Dec 10, 2012 21:19:03 GMT -6
hi
welcome to the forum
u have a short some where.
got a multimeter?
know how to use it?
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Post by alleyoop on Dec 10, 2012 21:36:41 GMT -6
Get a Volt Meter hook it up to the battery see what it reads in volts all fully charged the battery should read around 12.5-12.7 volts. Then start the scooter and bring up the RPMS to around 3000-4000 rpms and the volts should start to go up to 13+volts. If they don't then your charging system is not working, It could be just your Regulator/Rectifier that is bad or your stator.
If they do go up then you have something on the scoot that is DRAINING the battery, like an ALARM or REMOTE CONTROL starter or something else that you may have installed.
Do those checks and get back to us.
Alleyoop
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Post by JR on Dec 11, 2012 0:17:55 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum!  The Ejewel was discontinued in 2010 in the US but I think it's still available abroad and finding a manual for it is tough but we have one. This scooter has a 6-pin R/R and is a 3=phase stator. Wire colors should be as follows 3-yellows = AC voltage feed from stator Green = ground Black = 12Vdc read wire on igntion Red/white = charging voltage to battery. If you have no voltage or less than 13Vdc on the red/white wire from the R/R then the next step is to check the AC voltage on the 3 yellows from the stator. JR |
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Post by robinord on Dec 11, 2012 15:31:00 GMT -6
Thank you all! Now the proud owner of a multimeter. Will keep you posted ;  |
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Post by cruiser on Dec 11, 2012 22:22:11 GMT -6
Welcome to the forum! A multimeter is one of the most valuable tools for chasing down electrical gremlins. Electrical and carb problems are the most prevalent in scoots. Let us know your findings and we should be able to get the system charging in no time.
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Post by robinord on Dec 12, 2012 0:21:06 GMT -6
Purchased voltmeter. Checked it on a disconnected charged 12V car battery and got the expected voltage of 12.3V.
The reading on the disconnected (dry cell) scooter 12V battery was high - 12.93V. When connected with the scooter turned on the reading went up to over 15. When the scooter was turned off again the battery read 13.2 volts, falling slowly thereafter.
From alleyoop that seems to mean there is a drain. But the high base level voltage is also odd. I will check the alarm. Any thoughts? Thanks!
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 12, 2012 7:37:57 GMT -6
when sitting not running and the alarm is armed , you will have a slight drain . When your car or scooter is running and charging it should be about 14 VDC . Even when a battery is fully charged . Now remember when your charging a battery or pushing charging voltage into a battery . The moment you stop charging , the battery holds a surface charge . The battery will drop the surface charge voltage . For instance my battery was about 11vdc when I connected it to a slow charge the charger was pushing almost 15VDC when the charge was complete the battery read about 13.275VDC the 5 started to drop about every 15 seconds or so 5 4 3 2 1 . That was the surface charge I didn't care about that . I was concerned about the voltage the next day or 3 days later . After a week it sits at 12.4VDC . MY battery is not connected to the scooter it is on the shelf . It is a good battery .
Your charging voltage seems a little high . That is good after you crank the starter to get it started to replenish the power you used . Running that high voltage over 14.5vdc is slowly cooking your battery . Try to add some lights or load that will keep you voltage under 15VDC at 5000 RPM .
John
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 12, 2012 7:50:14 GMT -6
.longboamerica.com/product.php?productid=6&cat=1&page=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> .longboamerica.com/product.php?productid=6&cat=1&page=1Above is another scooter I have it came stock with with a 5 pic regulator and some electrical gremlins . The speedo and headlight covers got broken . So I wanted to replace them I could not get them so I got what was as close as I could get . So I had to rewire the head assembly . With the different plastics I also had to change the speedometer . The new one has a tach the old one didn't . Any way I beefed up the harness , I added to it . I put #10 wire power and ground #12 yellows . Now I have another problem I'm pushing 16vdc charging I use gerbings heated clothing thats a load I have not had a chance to check it under load but I will . John
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Post by JR on Dec 12, 2012 7:58:09 GMT -6
I would recommend putting higher watt head light bulbs in for more load on the system. You could also consider replacing the R/R, not often one replaces one that has hgih voltage but just as much as they can fail and not allow any charge they can fail and not regulate properly and have too much voltage.
JR
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Post by tvnacman on Dec 12, 2012 8:09:03 GMT -6
The thought did cross my mind about the regulator . I want to see if adding some extra load will make the difference all I have is a 35w headlight and 5 t5 bulbs on the system . I was thinking fog light .
John
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