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Post by alleyoop on Jul 8, 2014 11:41:58 GMT -6
It you have it AT IDLE and the wheel is stopped then it is the CLUTCH assembly, that is the only thing that is turning at that time, no gears or nothing else is turning EXCEPT the CLUTCH PULLEY ASSEMBLY on the shaft is supposed to turn freely.
Do this, take the BELL off and belt off the clutch pulley and SPIN the CLUTCH PULLEY with your hands it should spin freely and nice and smooth.
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 8, 2014 12:39:36 GMT -6
it does spin freely....the noise does get worse on acceleration But it is also bad on idle...Well,I guess I need to wait for the gear & see how it siunds after I install it...What really gets me is the clutch seems to work & looks normal.....The noise is defiantly coming from the rear to the scoot.....
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 8, 2014 14:49:47 GMT -6
Well its one of the Bearings back there and the one you found does make noise. Now the roller bearings in the clutch pulley may only bind up due to the pressure as the belt pulls on the assembly.
But if it still does it after that bearing then replace the clutch assembly.
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 8, 2014 18:06:52 GMT -6
I took some emery cloth to the clutch pads & the bell...Will see how everything works when the bearing comes in & I put it together..I think the bearing will make a difference But not convinced it's the problem...
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 8, 2014 19:26:50 GMT -6
I agree if it makes the noise when the BELL is not spinning and or the WHEEL.
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 10, 2014 10:43:56 GMT -6
Well,new bearing is here,I have it in the tranny cover & still has the same noise as the old one,when turning the shaft by hand...I don't think the bearing was the problem at all. I'm going to put it back together & see how in sounds..But,I think it will solve nothing....
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 10, 2014 13:18:52 GMT -6
Well,the bearing didn't fix it...So,I went & spent $41 for a 1 13/16" socket & a 3/4" male x 1/2" female adapter to put socket on my impact. Then removed & tore the clutch apart ,was it ever gummed up..So,I cleaned it up & greased where it need....What I did fined is that the back part that has a shaft that the front part fits over & slides in & out on,well it was pitted & to my eyes seems to have a lot of wear.... I did reassemble it & installed it on the scoot & still have that raddle,but it don't seem to be as bad to me...But my wife thinks it is still as bad....So,I'm thinking of ordering a new clutch...I think this thing has a lot of wear on it...The scooter has almost 13000 miles on it...I have a second scooter the same model & it's going on 22000 miles & have never had any problems with it.....
So,my question is,if there is wear on the main shaft of the rear part or the clutch & it has a little play when you slide the front part of the clutch over it, would this cause a raddle,I'm thinking it would...My wife got down to see where it's coming form & she agrees the the noise is in the clutch....I also think it makes the angle for the belt to ride on off & is making the belt wear quicker....I just installed the belt this spring & it has 1mm of wear on it already....the width is suppose to be 23mm it is now 22.2 mm....the belt may only have 1000 miles on it & it's a gates powerlink belt....When you rev the motor while on the center stand,you get a slight smell of rubber burning.......
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 10, 2014 15:24:25 GMT -6
Sure sounds like it is the CLUTCH and if it is not turning due to some play it will wear the belt.
I know you may not want to do this but you can take the clutch off your other 250 and put it on to prove beyond a doubt.
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 10, 2014 15:51:31 GMT -6
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 10, 2014 16:06:20 GMT -6
Well they have the measurements and the # of splines so you can match it to yours if yours measures the same that is the one you want.
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 10, 2014 16:12:42 GMT -6
the measurements are close & the splines on the bell are the same...My experience is if your measurements are close it's usually the same....
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 10, 2014 16:32:15 GMT -6
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Post by alleyoop on Jul 10, 2014 17:49:10 GMT -6
I am betting that is the problem RC, good luck BRO.
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 12, 2014 15:41:19 GMT -6
Hoping clutch is here monday....I let it set for 24hrs after taking the clutch apart & cleaning & greasing it up...Started it sat & it is alot better sounding....But going to install new clutch & keep old one for a spare......
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Post by rcq78 on Jul 15, 2014 17:33:17 GMT -6
Well,received the clutch monday,installed it & it made a totally different noise then the one I replace,But only made it for a short time & then went away...Me & the wife took it for a 25-30 mile ride & all seems good...I'm thinking the pads on the clutch where rubbing on the bell,to start with & just need to be broke in if thats what you want to call it.......But runs good now....I'm keeping the old clutch,if for nothing spare parts....I actually think the old one is still good after being tore apart & cleaned & a little greased....it cost $41 for the socket & adapter to use it on my impact wrench...
Thanks for all the help alley.....
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