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Post by snechovski on Jun 20, 2014 13:14:34 GMT -6
I took the enricher off the carb so I was no where near where it plugs, and the plug wire got knocked off by the air filter tube
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No fire
by: JR - Jun 20, 2014 13:21:24 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 20, 2014 13:21:24 GMT -6
Ok here's what my coil is doing, both sides of coil have ground w/key off when key is on both sides have power. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Both sides? You have a 12Vdc wire, a ground and a feed from the TCI. So are you saying the green and black/brown are both hot with key on and both are grounded with key off? If so then you have those two color wires crossed, it's that simple. Again something in this harness went nuts when you pulled the carb.
JR
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Post by snechovski on Jun 20, 2014 13:23:10 GMT -6
Look at last 2 post Jr I had to edit it
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Post by snechovski on Jun 20, 2014 13:48:02 GMT -6
Is there any other fuses or anything else anywhere else on here other than the ones in the glove box?
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Post by snechovski on Jun 20, 2014 13:53:14 GMT -6
That's a fuel system layout that you posted Jr.
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No fire
by: alleyoop - Jun 20, 2014 13:57:12 GMT -6
Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2014 13:57:12 GMT -6
Some have a fuse on the SOLENOID, a 20A fuse, also there usually is a fuse on the thin wire coming off the positive side of the battery depending on what you have either a 10a or 15a fuse.
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Post by snechovski on Jun 20, 2014 14:01:27 GMT -6
Thanks alleyoop, Yea it just has the battery one and fues panel and all check out good.. :-(
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No fire
by: alleyoop - Jun 20, 2014 14:06:57 GMT -6
Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2014 14:06:57 GMT -6
Ok need some pictures of the CDI, COIL, CARB area any wires under there that would be around the carb area.
Check your PM for my email address and I will put the pictures up for you.
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Post by snechovski on Jun 20, 2014 14:09:52 GMT -6
Ok I think I figured out how to post them, hold on I'll tell you when I do it and you can tell me if you see them Ok.
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No fire
by: alleyoop - Jun 20, 2014 14:10:04 GMT -6
Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2014 14:10:04 GMT -6
JR, tell him of any pictures you want to see I will put them up for him.
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No fire
by: JR - Jun 20, 2014 14:12:35 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 20, 2014 14:12:35 GMT -6
Look at last 2 post Jr I had to edit it Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Doesn't mean squat. In your picture:
The coil is within hands reach of the carb. The harness is running from that area at the bottom to the front of the scooter where your TCI and other components are, as it runs to the back also. This is Chinese, meaning connections are hidden in this harness and the ground wires plus the feed from your TCI that runs to the front is in there too. So if it's like you say on the coil readings as I said before they are crossed and that's why the coil is getting hot. Coil has to have a hot wire and ground, if the key is on and both are hot then you are sending 12Vdc to the coil on both sides and you're going to burn it up if you haven't already.
So if you have the theory of I didn't bother those things when I took the carb off and again what you say about the coil readings is so then you for sure did disturb the wiring, running before you took carb off and now it's not, this isn't crazy any more.
So you need to find where the ground and black/brown are crossed and until you do this scooter isn't going to run again. Fuses blow when wires are crossed.
Key off ground on both sides, key on hot on both sides = short.
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No fire
by: JR - Jun 20, 2014 14:14:34 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 20, 2014 14:14:34 GMT -6
Ok need some pictures of the CDI, COIL, CARB area any wires under there that would be around the carb area. Check your PM for my email address and I will put the pictures up for you. Alleyoop Read last post, this wiring system if what he says about the coil readings is so means one thing, short that was caused by moving carb/wiring around if what he says about his coil reading s are true. |
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No fire
by: JR - Jun 20, 2014 14:15:38 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 20, 2014 14:15:38 GMT -6
That's a fuel system layout that you posted Jr. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk Either your phone is haywire or you don't know how to reads a wiring diagram? That's the complete wiring system for a VOG. |
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No fire
by: alleyoop - Jun 20, 2014 14:15:56 GMT -6
Post by alleyoop on Jun 20, 2014 14:15:56 GMT -6
We need close up of the parts not a MILE away. We need to see the wires and colors going to the CDI, COIL etc..
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No fire
by: JR - Jun 20, 2014 14:20:02 GMT -6
Post by JR on Jun 20, 2014 14:20:02 GMT -6
Go back and look at his photos, coil is within hands reach of where he took the carb off, TCI is at the front of the scooter and the wires run from it back towards the engine. Easy to see and the colors are easy to see on the TCI Even with my bi-focals I can see that!  Easy to see the harness wrapping at the bottom of the coil. Easy to know, scooter running, took carb off, no fire, wiring compromised simple as that. |
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..BAD TO THE BONE..