Hi, from Kissimmee, Fl..... By 1flipflop (Read 2,514 times)

[1flipflop]

Hi, recent buy 2009 E-ton Sport 50 4stroke, was bought from a police auction on the cheapy cheap i might add did have some frontal damage from a spill front wheel fender is scratched and scrapes but good, front headlight and housing mount gone, key switch is vandalized the key hole but unit still intact, from frame wire harness 1 red 1 black wire cut and spliced(not by me)the wires from key switch not connected to anything either and not connector to connect to, plus another 3 wire female connector 2yellow 1 green terminated but nothing to connect to, at battery (negative side)some wiring (not cdi) has been cut off connectors, so for now got no spark issue or issues ,,LoL not my FAV. dept.. but willing to give it a shot may (mean life or death) Nawww, but am interested to learn to put this back original condition, mostly everything else there and good to fair useable condition, and by the way i pushed this scoot home from the auction as i have no vehicle to deliver it was about 3 hrs away pushing it home am i dedicated or what? At least its nice weather here and i was smart enuff bring small air pump to inflate tires

[JR]

Man I'm glad you're in good weather, wish I could say the same, just hoping I keep electricity:

news.msn.com/us/ice-friday-bears-down-on-texas-much-of-midwest

We can help and with a few photos and such we'll help you get her wired back to OEM and running. sounds like a hot wire job to me?

We're glad you're here!

JR

[alleyoop]

Welcome and for sure get some pictures of the wiring problem areas and if the the rest of the parts are working you will have a running and working scoot.
Alleyoop

[1flipflop]

Read Mid-west weather article Brrrrrr,, Thanks for the welcome and reply. Hope to get pictures for sure, appreciate the offer of assistance. Maybe awhile before i do so dont forget me. Yes i do believe it was a hot-wire job for sure. Wanted to ask maybe you could tell me. i have a wiring diagram for the E-ton sport 150, i tried Google for information always lead to this diagram but mine is sport 50cc no 150cc. I maybe borrow a camera from someone soon too, Should i start a new thread with the pictures or continue post them here , Thanks.....

[1flipflop]

Dec 6, 2013 13:03:20 GMT -6 alleyoop said:

Welcome and for sure get some pictures of the wiring problem areas and if the the rest of the parts are working you will have a running and working scoot.
Alleyoop

Thank you for the welcome going to try borrow a cam , So far have removed plastics to fully inspect the frame and whatnot.
No major problems far as i can tell. Fuel system seems to be good tank was almost full gas when i picked it up, bowl drain was opened and gas looked fresh and clean but will do a carb clean-out and or rebuild before put to DD duty. Not too worried about the cosmetics and going try to upload some pictures of current state of dismantle with shots of the wiring, would i start a new thread or post here in this thread?? Thank you

[JR]

Dec 8, 2013 10:40:19 GMT -6 1flipflop said:

Read Mid-west weather article Brrrrrr,, Thanks for the welcome and reply. Hope to get pictures for sure, appreciate the offer of assistance. Maybe awhile before i do so dont forget me. Yes i do believe it was a hot-wire job for sure. Wanted to ask maybe you could tell me. i have a wiring diagram for the E-ton sport 150, i tried Google for information always lead to this diagram but mine is sport 50cc no 150cc. I maybe borrow a camera from someone soon too, Should i start a new thread with the pictures or continue post them here , Thanks.....

A lot of 50cc and 150cc scooter line up the same on wiring, just depends on what all is on them but we'll figure it out.

JR

[1flipflop]

 hard to see was hacked or hot wired a red and black wire twisted together (no connector, removed) from wiring harness going up to connector for key switch, from key switch wiring (connector is disconnected) has a connector w. 5 wires= 2green, 1 red, 1black, and a black w.white stripe, the twisted red and solid black wire are near this area with no connector just twisted together this is from the way I received it.. just got a camera now and later today going to get a battery new for scoot have looked at the wiring for the battery is hacked up a little bit too, may be able to figure that on my own just this wiring I mention at key switch wanted to know if I could leave the black and red wire twisted together and try to get the engine to turn by the start button as the kicker is needing installed at the moment and want it to start with the start button function for testing spark purposes

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[alleyoop]

The GREENs are grounds,
The RED is your POWER wire 12volts coming from the battery which should have a fuse on it near the battery.
the BLACK is what feeds EVERYTHING ELSE when you turn the KEY ON
The BLACK&WHITE is the KILL WIRE it grounds out the CDI to kill the motor when you turn the KEY OFF.
Alleyoop

[1flipflop]

 Thank you for the reply, I happened across the wiring diagram for the SYM simply50 scooters are the same except the diagram shows only 4 wires from main key switch= all but the black w. white stripe so BIG  for that reply. Have to wait for battery wasn't able to afford today, next Wed. im shooting for sure the battery and until then hope to study the wiring a bit more..sent a pic of battery wires and another of key switch wires

[1flipflop]

Ok, I have battery now. Ran into some life changing obstacles but still would love some input how to test this scoot to start at switch not kicker, then to test for spark, the rest I can hopefully handle myself....   The pic of key switch wires with connector disconnected and nothing to connect it to. Don't see a male connector to connect to female key switch connector      Battery connection wires I know red pos. green neg. but guessing the 2 red wires for a fuse then ther is a white w. green strip and a black that im not sure what there

[JR]

Ok where are these wires located? At the front where you are putting the new key switch? Or are these back in the battery area? The black is generally 12Vdc from the key switch with the key on to all accessories on the scooter, horn, brake lights etc.

Green/White could be engine kill wire to the CDI from the key switch? Different scooters vary on the color of this wire?

[1flipflop]

Hi, yes those wires are in floor panel for battery area the cdi wires I pulled to the left so they were out of view but the cdi fits in floor panel area w. battery. So your saying the black connects to battery ?? the 2 reds I believe are for the fuse im looking at diagram right now as well and it does show the 2red come from start magnet then a fuse then onto the key switch so I got that. and the black im not sure , diagram show the W/G is come from fuel meter on dash then connects to dimmer switch and front brake switch then continues to connect to black wire on key or main switch and black wire on cdi this make sense to you?? Now after further investigations my CDI has a black/redstripe wire, diagram shows black.

[JR]

If it came from the floor area by the battery then yes the red is fused and goes to the key switch, the black will be hot from the key switch with the key on and if this is a DC type CDI then it supplies voltage to the CDI. Let me look at a diagram.

[JR]

1flipflop


OK from your PM there should not be a toggle switch under the seat, needs to go:

Black/red = AC feed from stator to CDI, this is a AC system
Blue/yellow = Stator pickup coil to tell CDI when to fire
Green = ground
Black/yellow = feed to the spark plug coil.

If stator is good it should have spark to run. The black wire needs to be tested to see if it has voltage with the key on, it goes to accessories as I mentioned earlier

[1flipflop]

Mar 22, 2015 21:20:12 GMT -6 JR said:

1flipflop


OK from your PM there should not be a toggle switch under the seat, needs to go:<<< yes i have found switch tampered with and broken malicious so i looped it

Black/red = AC feed from stator to CDI, this is a AC system<< this wire runs to the brake switches and the left switch is broken inoperatable. I have only 3 wires from stator but they arent attatch to stator they are attatched to pick up 1 is white 1 is yellow both to the reg/rec im assume and the 3rd is blue/yellow striped so i was just about attempt to electric start it and was going to connect all wires to CDI except the black/red and see what happened atleast im trying not to fowl or sizzle anything so i havent attempted. been write noted and study how each wire on scoot connect and found the bulb holder on front blinkers were maybe messed with too the ground for the bulb each side was lay flat against the pos terminal so i lifted the ground tabup and they work now. in my diagram SYM symply50 ignition diagram has a black wire that supposed to be from stator but i dont see any wire. I going to see what i can see now.. i pm you in a little bit..
Blue/yellow = Stator pickup coil to tell CDI when to fire<< this wire leads to that on switch under seat it is fixed from pickup to stator
Green = ground<<< all good there
Black/yellow = feed to the spark plug coil.<<<all good there

If stator is good it should have spark to run. The black wire needs to be tested to see if it has voltage with the key on, it goes to accessories as I mentioned earlier